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Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Post by canyaread »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #248
jazzypants wrote: post #223

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No, the people who can't afford their insurance wouldn't be able to work as policemen. Ideally, they would also eventually lose a license of some sort-- just like the doctors who commit malpractice. We are already paying increased taxes to deal with all the lawsuits we already incur because these people know they are above the law and they think it isn't their problem.

I explained the problem in very simple terms. But your rebuttal is "nuh uh, here are all the details that irrelevant that I think are really cool". The people still pay for it. They pay for all the settlements, plus they pay another big slice on top for the insurance industry (since they do nothing for free). Then cops do the same thing, and lobbyists push on the insurance industry to allow them to keep breaking head…

The parent poster is suggesting the cop needs to pay for the insurance. Cop salaries aren't going to rise to meet the most uninsurable person, eventually a cop will be unable to afford their insurance based on their salary.

You, in fact, argue in support of their idea -- there's lots of people who want to be cops. That keeps salaries lower, making a ballooning insurance cost impossible for a bad cop to continue to pay.

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Post by throawayonthe »

ryandrake wrote: post #129
john_strinlai wrote: post #125

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> They did it to show that if you speak out against them, they'll arrest and inconvenience you. So the next person who gets a thought to speak out might decide not to bother. some of my students have expressed that they wish they could get arrested for a meme and walk away with a couple hundred grand. i, of course, have told them that they would be playing with fire. but they are still viewing it as a potentially lif…

Yea, an arrest on your record, even if you're acquitted and/or get a settlement for police wrongdoing, can still mess you up. There are employers and landlords who will ask you / check whether you were ever arrested, regardless of the outcome of the arrest . Mere involvement with Law Enforcement puts a permanent black mark on your record and can interfere with basic things for the rest of your life.

to clarify, is this a 'record' in the abstract sense of 'something that can be known about your past' (someone googles your name and a news article mentions arrest) or some kind of literal record with arrest records etc accessible (publicly? by employers?) in the US?

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Post by lysace »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #299
lysace wrote: post #262

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Oh, but you were comparing the US to the top-ranking European countries: "For this section the US scores 96, within a few points of Switzerland (100), Sweden (97)" Also: It's a bit of a culture shock to be served soft drinks made from very obviously chlorinated water in e.g. California (one of the richest regions in the world). Is it a taste that people just learn to live with? I don't understand how this is tolerate…

Where in California? Where I am in the bay area, we have quite good tap water. San Francisco famously built the Hetch Hetchy reservoir in Yosemite national park in the early 20th century, which delivers excellent water from the granite Sierra Nevadas to supply the city and a substantial fraction of the water supply in other parts of the bay area. Hetch Hetchy water needs minimal treatment. On the other hand, I rememb…

My most recent such experience was in San Diego.

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Post by luxuryballs »

snazypaparazzi wrote: post #183
luxuryballs wrote: post #117

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fine for who? Texans? this is a silly mentality, no need to compare any other location, Texas as a standalone entity and the many stakeholders wouldn’t reasonably think it’s fine

I'm supposed to force social darwinists to do what's best for them and make sure all policies prevent them from failing even if their goal is to invalidate those policies. Texas can make laws in its state legislature to prevent municipalities from creating liabilities. If they are good other states can adopt them. If they don't they can get bent which is also good for other states that make better choices to see bene…

welcome to Earth where the law of the jungle never needed any endorsement or approval

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Post by p1esk »

mcdonje wrote: post #317
p1esk wrote: post #155

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Even if you could achieve that, there would still be rich people. Musk would still be a billionaire even if he had to pay 90% tax. Plus, many powerful people in government are not that rich.

His ability to use his wealth to influence the government and the populous would be significantly reduced. There's a big difference between "rich" and "rich enough circumvent democracy."

Don’t you think a far bigger threat to democracy is that government allows this influence? And voters seem to be perfectly OK with both 250M campaign contributions and widespread lobbying?

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Post by stirfish »

aliasxneo wrote: post #274
stirfish wrote: post #242

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I read somewhere that aliasxneo eats turds with a fork and knife. I'm not sitting on a precompiled list of sources, and it would be unfair to ask me to spend my Saturday building a list for someone whom I read eats turds with a fork and knife. I won't say what aliasxneo does to add slightly more flavoring, but I think it's a pretty reasonable to assume it's gross and lazy.

Kudos for taking the time to type all of that out lol. I clearly hit a nerve.

Take it as an opinion. Don't take it seriously. Whatever floats your boat.

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Post by stouset »

userbinator wrote: post #306
stouset wrote: post #35

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Indeed the brainwashing is still alive and well. It’s been five years since multiple COVID-19 vaccines have been widely available and administered worldwide, and just about the worst common side effects have been a small risk of mild, self-resolving myocarditis in mRNA vaccines and an increased risk of clotting for adenoviral vector vaccines which have been either discontinued or fallen out of use. Past those, there…

~5 per million doses Now multiply that by how many people got it, and you see the number is not small at all. Note: I have been vaxed myself.

Now compare that by how many died from the disease itself.

Now consider that these risks are well-known, well-publicized, well-studied, and well-accepted and nobody is getting arrested for talking about them.

Now consider that these risks are—again—fully in-line with the risks from other vaccines.

Now consider that the number of hospitalizations in the U.S. from Tylenol annually suggests something north of 7,000 adverse effects per million people.

There are a gazillion and one reasonable things one can find to be mad about these days. COVID-19 vaccine adverse events aren’t one of them.

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Post by mcdonje »

p1esk wrote: post #336
mcdonje wrote: post #317

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His ability to use his wealth to influence the government and the populous would be significantly reduced. There's a big difference between "rich" and "rich enough circumvent democracy."

Don’t you think a far bigger threat to democracy is that government allows this influence? And voters seem to be perfectly OK with both 250M campaign contributions and widespread lobbying?

Whataboutism. Which is funny because it's literally the same problem.

It's somewhat intractable at this point unless or until we can figure out how to structure society in a way that can actually prevent it. Not sure we have the organizational knowledge at this point.

The government used to have better guards in place, but then what happened? They got weakened because of the monied interests already existed were successful at largely capturing the government. Guess what else happened during much the same time period; The government largely stopped breaking up monopolies, and many unions were busted or otherwise weakened or eliminated.

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Post by BrenBarn »

p1esk wrote: post #315
BrenBarn wrote: post #159

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Well, no, you just a need a coalition that collectively is more powerful.

We already have two such coalitions within Congress: Republicans and Democrats. How is that working out?

Those are coalitions of politicians, which to an increasing extent are part of the "powerful" group that needs to be overridden. By coalitions I mean coalitions of the actual citizenry.
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