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Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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I’ve been running mine offline for years, I don’t know why other people haven’t been. They’re the only competent and reliable printer that isn’t a project car in itself, but they’re obviously not completely trustworthy. Easily fixed with an air gap, updates work just great from a USB drive.

I tried it but switched back to the online mode because being able to remotely check in via the app is very useful to check the print hasn't failed.

Bambuddy has PWA support!

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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I tried it but switched back to the online mode because being able to remotely check in via the app is very useful to check the print hasn't failed.

Another feature locked behind the app is individual part cancelling which is nice for partial print failures.

Also available in Bambuddy PWA.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> later modify that device later to remove that functionality that is called theft. I've always been told it's called business. But I fully agree with you. Just wanted to note that this is the current business model both with hardware and software

> I've always been told it's called business. The "business" ended when the sale transaction concluded. The fact that you were the seller in that past transaction doesn't entitle you to vandalize goods that now belong to someone else. This is just crime trying to disguise itself as legitimate business, as scams often do.

I've been treated this way numerous times. First example: FlightRadar - I bought the app, they sunsetted it and created "new one" with monthly payments

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Yeah I’m so tired of rhetorical games people play. It’s a shitty business practice, it is deceptive and possibly false advertising, it may be violation of a contract and / consumer production laws, but removal of a software feature is not “theft”. And many of these same people probably (and rightfully) laughed at music and movie people casting piracy as “theft”.

When you sell something and then after the sell you take away the very thing you sold — that you no longer own — from the person who now owns it, that is called theft. You are taking something away from someone that they own. Piracy is not theft because you do not take anything away from anyone, you copy it and do not pay for it, but the original is still there. No one lost anything. It is irrelevant whether the thin…

Wait so if a third party took away a feature you use, would that be “theft”? Like if your ISP is down when you want to watch a movie?

It’s wrong for sure, but I’m vicariously embarrassed for those who want to define everything they don’t like as “terrorism” or “theft” or whatever, strictly because it sounds so dramatic and casts the wrongdoers as not just wrong, but evil.

It’s old, it’s tired, it doesn’t convince anyone.

Simple “failure to adhere to terms of sale” is sufficient, and doesn’t have the baggage of being false.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> This isn't actually possible This is only true due to a firmware they pushed last year. It's an artificial limit. There's no reason at all a local client couldn't just talk to a local printer without any cloud. Every problem BambuLabs have here is self-inflicted. They could allow simultaneous cloud and local queue management with or without authentication.

All of their issues are self-inflicted. What benefit is there to their cloud backend except getting around the home NAT? If you want to build your IoT product privacy-friendly, your cloud offering can be reduced to a STUN/rendezvous server and a proxy server as fallback [1]. Ship your devices with individual tokens to rate limit the proxy, have the STUN/rendezvous/proxy server address configurable and publish their s…

Honestly, a lot of devices that use cloud apps for things could be improved both for the customer and manufacturer by using a "STUN/TURN" style proxy for the cloud service rather than forcing all data to go through a cloud service (to add to the other advantages, you don't need as many developers on the cloud side). But nobody in the engineering departments of these companies seem to be willing to touch WebRTC with a nine-foot pole lol

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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So the C&D was stupid, and so is how their network works apparently. Fundamentally, what Bambu are saying is that they have a right to restrict what software accesses their network. The C&D was allegedly sent to stop distribution of software that was written to access their network in an unauthorized fashion (Allegedly according to their ToS). AGPL covers source code. It does not cover who can access what network wit…

This is essentially the same as Signal. Signal foundation, despite their non-profit status, behaves like for profit entities and refuses to allow 3rd party forks of signal. If you fork and build the signal app, you better host the servers yourselves too.

And yet, I'm using Molly, an independent Android fork of Signal.

Signal itself is released on AGPL-3.0: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android so this is probably why Molly forked.

So not sure what are you talking about.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Mine is now offline. But when it was online, I never checked the app for failed prints. If the print has failed, I'll find out when I'm near enough to it to do something about it. When offline, it amused me when there was a "hairball" and the printer detected it advising "AI Detecting Print Error". At what level does an image analysis algorithm become "AI"?

If the print has failed you can stop it from the app to prevent it becoming a huge mess and possibly causing damage to the printer.

For previous printers, absolutely yes.

But my current Bambu? The printer has caught this every time.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> later modify that device later to remove that functionality that is called theft. I've always been told it's called business. But I fully agree with you. Just wanted to note that this is the current business model both with hardware and software

Crime is unfortunately legal.

At least when it's profitable for stockholders.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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It's maddening that quite a few people are jumping to defend Bambu here. Principally if you sell a device with a certain functionality and you later modify that device later to remove that functionality that is called theft. It does not matter the slightest bit whether you break into someone's house to physically alter the device or whether you remotely install a malicious software update to do that. But what's even…

I always put printers (2d and 3d) behind a firewall so they cannot reach the internet. This prevents auto-updates and surprises like disappearing functionality.

I refuse to even put them on a network - just direct USB to a host where I fully control the software.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> However, if you want your pictures to last 10+ years under the sun Ah yes, the standard usecase for a printer. putting pictures outside for a decade.

Printing a family picture on 4"x6" photo paper, framing it and putting in a living room exposes it to copious amount of UV light over a decade. It's one of the exact reasons inkjet printers and blank, inkjet-compatible photo paper exists. HP was bundling them with their printers when I last opened mine.

No one is using a bog standard inkjet for something they want to frame for years.
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