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Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by yalok »

TeeWEE wrote: post #310

> Git itself wasn't designed for that load, and bolting AI onto platforms not built for agents is the biggest mistake of this era. We're doing a generational rebuild of the underlying infrastructure to handle agent-rate work as the default. Git itself is being reengineered for machine scale. The monolith is giving way to modern, API-first, composable services Two big red flags here. First git itself is distributed an…

> First git itself is distributed and built for scale.

there're different dimensions for "scale" - like handling large monorepos, orders of magnitude more commits, tighter requirements for latencies (for agentic use, e.g. for agentic history navigation)...

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

solid_fuel wrote: post #172
u_fucking_dork wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling it text autocomplete is played out and really just makes you look bad at this point.

It's literally text autocomplete. You can dress it up however you want but it takes input text and outputs the most likely next sequence.

For a good reminder for people on the limitations of AI (or well OAI gpt 5.3 default model for non paying users), I did an experiment recently (Just a week-ish ago): https://smileplease.mataroa.blog/blog/how-many-e-are-in-stra...

image: https://mataroa.blog/images/b5c65214.png

but it says that there are 3 e's in strawberry ;)

Now this is literally something which occurs because of it being text autocomplete and the inherent issue of token based Large language models. So you are literally right :D

My point is that AI can have its issues and it can have its plus points (just like text autocomplete but some suggest its on steroids)

The issue to me feels like we are hammering it in absolutely everything and anything, perhaps it should be used more selectively, y'know, like perhaps a tool?

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Post by userbinator »

slg wrote: post #303
blindriver wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why companies are abandoning DEI so quickly and so decisively. What happens if/when a Democrat president is elected that mandates DEI and ESG all over again, are they going to add them back into their core values as swiftly as they abandoned them? At least companies like Coinbase made principled stances against forced DEI and employee activism earlier than everyone else. Doing it now seems weird be…

>What happens if/when a Democrat president is elected that mandates DEI and ESG all over again Mandates? There is this weird revisionist history that DEI was a Biden era invention that all these companies were forced to roll out in January 2021. These programs were simply the latest evolution of prolonged and steady cultural shifts. I remember attending events trying to promote diversity in the computer science depar…

You mean decades of regression.

The obvious decline started around 2010; coincidentally also the era of the rise of SJW-ism and nontechnical derailing drama. Once the diversity quotas started appearing, the inevitable results were obvious.

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Post by nijave »

bigbuppo wrote: post #60
lta wrote: post #36

I'm sorely disappointed by gitlab, I was hoping they would be a safe harbor against this whole AI bullshit typhoon.

They went all-in on AI features rather than making it less slow.

Ironically that's the only AI feature they need, making it less slow

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Post by iandanforth »

I don't understand how people can use the phrase "right-size" without a crushing sense of embarrassment and shame. Did you swallow a business consultant from 1990? That and phrases like "go forward strategy" say either 1. I do not know how to communicate like a human or 2. I am afraid of speaking naturally because it impinges on my self image as a business leader or 3. I do not want to accurately describe what I'm doing because that might expose my fragile ego to the possibility that I'm doing something which hurts people.

"We're firing a bunch of people because we think we don't need them anymore due to AI and we'll make more money without them."

There are times when businesses must fire people to stay afloat and it's a business that objectively needs to exist. This isn't one of them, so don't waste everyone's time with your BS, please.

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Post by SimpleSalmon »

shimman wrote: post #26

GitLab is a great example of a lifestyle company that should have never become a public corporation.

So much this. GitLab’s values and ethos were completely incompatible with becoming a public company. Sid is always seen as the good guy but it was his narrow minded greed that led here.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by userbinator »

xdennis wrote: post #241
PradeetPatel wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength. Does anyone know what caused this?

> There seems to be a massive push against DEI over the last few years in the tech industry globally, despite it being one of the industry's greatest strength. Okay, I'll bite. Why is it a strength, and why is it the greatest strength? All people are equal, so it shouldn't matter if you have an all Asian team, an all black team, or any mix of all races.

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Post by tdb7893 »

ReptileMan wrote: post #82
tdb7893 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Places I've worked that actually seem to have inclusion as a core value are great places to work and seem to have high functioning teams. My impression mostly though is more that it was never really a value for management but they wasted a bunch of time talking about it. In general any mismatch between stated values and actual values has been awful to deal with and is a red flag for places to work.

There are two ways to do diversity - the first is to put a brutal skill filter and take everyone that passes it no matter their skin color, body weight, religion or politics. The other is to reduce people to their demographics and push for (in)visible quotas. One of them leads to crappy results.

I just want to be clear that these are not the only two ways to do diversity. Even if you're just focused on hiring (which is a myopic way to view diversity, even at the most simplistic level you need to think about retention) hiring is complicated and I've seen people try a variety of things to get a wider pool of qualified candidates in the pipeline (offering remote work, better paternity/maternity leaves, outreach with local women in engineering groups, etc). This isn't at all my area of expertise and I've seen a lot of things outside of the dichotomy you described.

Also, idk why people view quotas as all of "diversity". I've literally never worked at a place that considered this but I see people mention them all the time on the internet.

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by nashadelic »

torben-friis wrote: post #87
Animats wrote: post #17

Their old CREDIT values: Collaboration, Results for Customers, Efficiency, Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Iteration, and Transparency. New values: Speed with Quality, Ownership Mindset, Customer Outcomes. In other words, work harder, not smarter, and no more DEI.

There's a 'github down' post here every other day. The ball is right there, bouncing alone in front of the goal, and they just have to position themselves as "we're the stable ones" to score that market when the exodus inevitably happens. Nope, full throttle and stimulants, just because.

Yeah it’s “the world is becoming machine coded” and “we’re reducing by 30%” at the same time, like they don’t believe in their own words

Re: GitLab announces workforce reduction and end of their CREDIT values

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

dunder_cat wrote: post #250

After CVE-2023-7028 (account takeover via password reset, IIRC you just had to add a semi-colon between the correct email and the attacker email and it'd email both) was exploited against my cluster, the boasting about fully-automated changes and reviews scares me. I hope I'm far from the only one that hasn't forgotten issues like this. I'm aware that the defective code was not written by AI but nonetheless, GitLab i…

> [1] VPN is an option but we're a non-profit with a number of non-technical users, so admittedly we're caught in a balance between making it harder to do things. As much as WireGuard is awesome, there's still a barrier.

I would love to help a non-profit and so, I am curious but what are your thoughts on authentik/authelia and others, can they might help in any use case to what you are suggesting, I would love to have a more in-depth discussion!

Also thanks for working at non-profit, although I am not entirely sure what is about but thanks to your non profits and all the other hard working people working at non profits for a better world once again!

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