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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by DonHopkins »

nebula8804 wrote: post #217
simgt wrote: post #76

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> I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb. I don't think that's part of their decision making, Liquid Glass moved most things around for seemingly not much else than novelty and that's not the first time.

Liquid Glass makes sense if this is what they are working towards: https://www.macrumors.com/guide/20th-anniversary-iphone/ They have done this before, release something large early in anticipation of a major shift and iron out issues before the shift happens. Liquid Glass started off a little janky but they appear to have been ironing out initial issues with each update.

The worst problem they finally ironed out was Alan Dye.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dqh »

elicash wrote: post #330
dqh wrote: post #321

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It worked perfectly for a long before Claude and friends existed, so I don't think it follows that not using these tools has led to the problem now.

Just a few years before Claude, in 2019, there was that huge facetime audio bug.

Perfectly for me I guess I should have said. Nonetheless, this md file packaging mistake suggests that at least once they’ve fallen into not reviewing changes properly, and I wonder if that lack of discipline is more widespread. I hope not, otherwise their ability to deliver on their privacy promises will be compromised.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by giancarlostoro »

zombot wrote: post #292
giancarlostoro wrote: post #172

Considering that XCode supports using Claude directly, I'm not surprised to a degree. I'm more surprised it was not blocked out by whatever build tooling they use.

After the AI blitz it's amateur hour everywhere.

A claude.md file is not really that terrible imho.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by acdha »

simgt wrote: post #76
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

> I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb. I don't think that's part of their decision making, Liquid Glass moved most things around for seemingly not much else than novelty and that's not the first time.

Liquid Glass was also noteworthy for being the first macOS release since 10.1 which was worse across the board in a deliberate manner. They have shipped bugs before but this time it got such poor reception because all of the regressions were intentional and there wasn’t an expectation that they’d be patched.

I don’t think that cavalier attitude is universal at Apple and I don’t think the Siri PM wanted to break with their past respect for UX.

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Post by acdha »

wenc wrote: post #44
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

I’m curious, what are you talking about for that long? It sounds like that’s moving out of the home automation space into something else.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by stouset »

gambiting wrote: post #326
stouset wrote: post #319

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None of these were more than a blip in the market. Nothing today even remotely resembles these devices, inherits design language from them, or points back in any way to them. They are historical dead ends and nearly irrelevant. Meanwhile the majority of people on earth own one or multiple devices that are more or less clones of the original iPhone, only faster, larger, thinner, and exponentially more capable.

Honest question - were you actually an adult using smartphones when the first iPhone came out? Or are you basing your opinion on what you read on the internet? Because by the time of the iPhone coming out everyone j knew had a Blackberry or some internet connected Nokia slider - the iPhone was significantly less capable than either of those. And yeah, both Nokia and Blackberry screwed the pooch. But again, pretending…

Yes, I was an adult during all of this.

BlackBerrys were popular amongst business users, but there were 85 million of those devices in circulation across the globe at their absolute peak. There are currently 8 billion smartphones worldwide, and virtually all of them are descendants of the iPhone form factor and multitouch input paradigm. BlackBerrys were barely Internet devices as we know them today; they did technically have a browser, but it was minimally functional and they were mostly considered email machines. Unlike the original iPhone, they would be virtually unrecognizable to someone today as equivalent to what we carry around in our pockets.

In less time than it took RIM to develop the BlackBerry and reach 85 million users, Apple took a niche device category and completely transformed it into something that spread to the overwhelming majority of the human population on the planet.

Your position is like saying well actually the modern bicycle was actually invented by whomever created the penny farthing. Yes it had two wheels, yes it existed before the safety bicycle. But they were a novelty until the safety bicycle was invented, and every bicycle in circulation today owes its design to that very first one.

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Post by bmf »

acdha wrote: post #34
stefan_ wrote: post #13

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Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Wasn’t planning on it, but Show HN: JoinIn.AI?! We’re working on making a better audio interface to LLMs that is socially adroit enough to handle even multi-party conversation.

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Post by HumblyTossed »

gnerd00 wrote: post #96
HumblyTossed wrote: post #68

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They're valued at $4T, they have hundreds of billions hoarded. They could run 50 billion dollar startup projects and not feel it. Imagine a startup getting handed a billion dollars ... and the vast knowledge that Apple has access to already. There's no way they couldn't do a better Siri. For some reason, they just ... won't.

here is a clue delivered -- money does not make software better, and lots of money often results in worse.. it makes no sense? actual experience begs to differ. Classical homework assignment -- the Mythical Man Month and related essays

I’ve read all that. I know all that. None of that changes my point.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by nebula8804 »

dangus wrote: post #310
nebula8804 wrote: post #217

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Liquid Glass makes sense if this is what they are working towards: https://www.macrumors.com/guide/20th-anniversary-iphone/ They have done this before, release something large early in anticipation of a major shift and iron out issues before the shift happens. Liquid Glass started off a little janky but they appear to have been ironing out initial issues with each update.

It only “makes sense” if you believe this concept also “makes sense.” Nobody asked for a phone with fake buttons and a fragile wrap around screen. Nobody asked for the UI to drastically change at random. I wish smartphone companies would treat their products like they were completed devices with no innovation required. They are fully mature. Instead, work on making them actually improved in ways that matter rather th…

Toyota's philosophy is polishing mature technology and small gradual iteration that supports that goal. That is not "skating to where the puck is going to be". With that philosophy Apple would never have developed the iPhone. Instead just iterating the iPod until someone else put them out of business.

It was famously explained in the original iPhone unveiling. They talked about developing new paradigms in computing and jumping towards those new paradigms with both feet.

Also, Steve Jobs once argued with Woz early on that users don't have a say in the product. The author creates a piece of work and does not stop to ask the audience what the next paragraph should be. At the end either the audience likes it or they don't and they go somewhere else. All the "toyotas" of the tech world are competing to 0 margins and will eventually die off. When Apple tried this in the 90s they ended up nearly bankrupt.

Here is Steve Jobs explaining this philosophy when users asked for cheaper machines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U37Ds3RvyoM

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