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Re: How ChatGPT serves ads

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Post by kubb »

bambax wrote: post #197
danparsonson wrote: post #170

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No, I suspect that "I kind of think of ads as a last resort" was doublespeak for "ads are coming eventually". I would tend to think of someone like him as a person who uses words to achieve a specific goal, rather than someone who speaks whatever is truly on their mind. Whether those words are lies or truth or somewhere in between is irrelevant; what matters to them is the outcome. It's likely a waste of time trying…

> "But Sam Altman said..." to me has about as much value as "ChatGPT told me...". Or Trump. Same profile. There is something to be admired in this kind of people. They are not bound by their own words. It simply doesn't matter to them what they said a month ago, or a minute ago. Their words are attached to the instant they are pronounced; they don't concern the future, or the past. They die immediately after they hav…

Altman must be much more strategic and calculated in his communication than Trump who just kind of blurts out whatever.

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Post by tombert »

dnnddidiej wrote: post #156
nerptastic wrote: post #74

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Well - I think the writing was on the wall when they announced they were going to be for-profit. Slippery slope and all that, but I’m sure some of this is because they’ve been giving out free tokens for years.

Even as a not for profit they would need cashflow.

Yes but they would only need enough to keep the lights on and pay the engineers.

When you're a for-profit company, especially a public one (which I believe they're looking to be soon), you can't just maintain homeostasis. Your investors want growth every quarter.

Conceivably if they stayed non-profit then they could charge just enough to maintain the project, and they wouldn't necessarily have to have ads.

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Post by tombert »

chromacity wrote: post #106
Aurornis wrote: post #94

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The ads are for the free tier and new $8 ad-supported plan. The revenue from a few ads on the free tier in exchange for limited queries to GPT-5.3 is negligible compared to what they pull in from API costs and the subscription plans. This looks like a play to justify the existence of the previously money-losing free tier as they go into an IPO. Throw some ads in there to make it closer to a neutral on the balance she…

> The revenue from a few ads on the free tier in exchange for limited queries to GPT-5.3 is negligible So why chase this negligible revenue?

I suspect so that they get people used to ads so they can spam them with enough to make it not negligible. If they put millions of ads all over the page right away, it would turn everyone off. If they do the boiling frog thing and ease you into it, then people might not notice.

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Post by Dragonai »

danparsonson wrote: post #170
programjames wrote: post #68

Less than two years ago, Sam Altman said > I kind of think of ads as a last resort for us for a business model. I would do it if it meant that was the only way to get everybody in the world access to great services, but if we can find something that doesn't do that, I'd prefer that. So, is this OpenAI announcing they're strapped for cash?

No, I suspect that "I kind of think of ads as a last resort" was doublespeak for "ads are coming eventually". I would tend to think of someone like him as a person who uses words to achieve a specific goal, rather than someone who speaks whatever is truly on their mind. Whether those words are lies or truth or somewhere in between is irrelevant; what matters to them is the outcome. It's likely a waste of time trying…

Super great analogy!

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Post by saalweachter »

b3lvedere wrote: post #215
ponector wrote: post #211

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I bet he also drunk a refreshing Coca-Cola beverage during his gaming sessions.

That was an awesome laugh. Thanks. :) He was also the first president ever to use NordVPN. Apply now for a super duper discount at nordvpn.com/honestabe

If Richard Nixon had used NordVPN, he'd still be President today.

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Post by staticshock »

phist_mcgee wrote: post #203
Arkhaine_kupo wrote: post #198

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Its like fussion power, except there we half the funding every year instead of doubling it

Fusion power is proven to be possible. AGI is not.

AGI is 100% possible, even if the current breed of transformer-based models are not it, and even if silicon is not it. There's nothing special about human brains that we won't eventually be able to match (and then exceed) in vitro. We are living proof that intelligence can be built out of matter, and that human-scale intelligence can run on 20 watts. It's not a matter of if, but when.

Re: How ChatGPT serves ads

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Post by abc123abc123 »

phist_mcgee wrote: post #203
Arkhaine_kupo wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its like fussion power, except there we half the funding every year instead of doubling it

Fusion power is proven to be possible. AGI is not.

There is not even an agreed upon definition for intelligence or for AGI.
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