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US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Government should be so powerless as to be unattractive targets for corporate influence.

Name checks out.

Wait until you find out that I paid my state money I didn’t have to pay (a custom license plate) just so I could put an anti-government message on it.

I smile at that delicious irony every time I see it.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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There is no other technology to do age verification at scale. Apple, Google and such will contract out this age verification to a third-party which will ask you to upload your ID and a 3D face captcha, which the third party will delete within 15 days, but somehow magically still make it into an unfortunate, unavoidable data leak a couple of years later.

I think you are assuming what their definition of "verify" is going to be, but it's not actually written in the text of the bill, so we don't know. Similar laws in some states only asked the OS to collect the age, it specifically doesn't say that the information must ever be accurate, stored or used for anything.

At this point not assuming malice is probably naïveté, but I respect your optimism

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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the US will kill every third space by any means necessary their dwindling to irrelevance, like the UK, could not happen faster

Have you thought about what replaces the US once they're irrelevant? Because it's probably something much worse.

at least it's an ethos

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Name checks out.

Wait until you find out that I paid my state money I didn’t have to pay (a custom license plate) just so I could put an anti-government message on it. I smile at that delicious irony every time I see it.

You rapscallion. You actual rogue.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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What for? I use family link for my kids devices. It works good enough. Everything else seems way too intrusive. Apple is horrible in this regard. Their solutions never really work. A joint venture for an (optional) cross-platform family app would be more than enough. This, plus a (voluntary) content rating that's offered via an API (could even be simple meta data on a webpage). Done.

Nice. How does pornhub.com "verify" your age when accessing it from your family computer's Ububtu account "my kids account"? Oh, there is no config to retrieve, no We API to speak to. "I'm 18 or older"-button it is. Is that a workable solution?

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Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Microsoft just force-updated my operating system (despite declining every option and prompt) and the first thing I noticed working differently was it offering, in an OS popup, to "connect" the computer to "Facebook". These people have root access to all our webcams. I don't think we can tolerate these entities to continue to exist.

What can we do about it? The major tech firms have nearly all the power here, including quite obviously full capture of government (not just here but other countries as well).

On your tongue: "what exactly can we do?"

On theirs: "Just for the sake of making the numbers work, have you tried putting in 'kill all the poor'?". https://youtu.be/s_4J4uor3JE

I am increasingly coming to recognize proceduralist liberalism as a suicide pact.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait until you find out that I paid my state money I didn’t have to pay (a custom license plate) just so I could put an anti-government message on it. I smile at that delicious irony every time I see it.

You rapscallion. You actual rogue.

I aim to be the penultimate knave of our time.

* Apple just autocorrected “knave” to “Kanye” when I typed it.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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So, who's gearing up to sue the FTC for a declaratory judgment that this is unconstitutional?

Is that an option? Tell me more. Yes, I am looking to sue to stop this insanity. If you're a lawyer reading this, please reach out.

It's an option if you can articulate an injury under the bill. I suspect non-commercial "operating system providers" arguing infringement of speech would be best positioned to be plaintiffs. This is not legal advice.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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> how are we in 2026 and phones dont have guest mode or "i handed it to my kid mode" They do. Android have had multi-user and guest profiles since Android 5. The only reason I really know this is because I heard how Google completely bungled it in Android 14 on Pixel devices[1] :D [1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/android-14s-ransomwa...

While age gate attempts are comically stupid, an adult giving a kid a device purpose built for addictive behavior should absolutely be as illegal as giving them alcohol or cigarettes. I really hope Apple and Google are not stupid enough to further enable this.

I don't consider giving a kid a phone in guided access with calculator up to be addictive or something that should be illegal.

Same applies to guided access and a facetime call. I dont want them to switch apps or hang up the call, the phone gets locked down.

Re: US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Politicians will do any draconian measure to help kids except try and improve the lives of their parents so that they can actually dedicate time to parenting. Making it slightly harder to access the internet fixes nothing. What if instead of having the largest prison population in the world our government supported communities that make raising good children possible? Our society needs to lose this urge to diagnose e…

IF it were for the kids - but I don't think it is. > Making it slightly harder to access the internet fixes nothing. This assumes it is about the children. But if you do not think so then it opens up new alternatives suddenly, be it from tracking people, to targeted ads or any other information that could be gathered and eventually either monetized or put in tandem with other information. We'd get age graphs that way…

> IF it were for the kids - but I don't think it is.

Exactly. If it was about kids, then you do not direct legislation towards everybody, but at parents. Give parents the software and tools (parental control settings) to restrict their child from searching certain terms and accessing certain sites. Bob or Susan (middle age adults), down the street, should have nothing to do with that.

It's about outright surveillance, tracking, censorship, control, and politicians putting money in their pocket. "Kids" is just a cover for their intentions and dirt. More has to be done to call out the deception.

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