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Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#331

Yea, when there's a match, our app stops playing videos in Spain and we get some bad reviews. It's pretty annoying.

At some point apps should just start pointing the finger at the cause of these problems. Linking users with Spanish IPs to a page explaining soccer internet censorship won't stop the bad reviews entirely but at least it'll be more useful than doing nothing.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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post #166

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It would if it were bigger business in your country. Try torrenting an MCU movie and see what happens to your ISP account.

Out of curiosity, what does happen?

AFAIK not much in most of the world, in Germany you get a letter from lawyers wanting ~1000 EUR

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#333
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Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that…

All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.

It's Spain man. Nothing will happen, maybe they will call their buddies in La Liga to ask what's up if the complains pile up and then will ignore all of them if they are assured everything works as expected.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#334
post #89

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But you must realize, the alternative to this is that some very wealthy Spanish companies ... lose a small amount of money. Surely you understand now. Go about your business, poor person.

They don't even "lose a small amount of money." They simply gain less money than usual for a short period of time. Think of how rough that is for them.

This isn't quite right either. It's "they gain less money than they might potentially gain if piracy weren't physically possible". If the piracy avenues didn't exist, how many people would actually pay full price to the legitimate sources, and how many people would simply go without?

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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post #108

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Just so everyone here has the full picture: the source linked — Assemblea Nacional Catalana — is not a human rights watchdog, an international observer, or a journalistic outlet. It is the main pro-independence criminal activist organization in Catalonia. Citing them as evidence of Spanish human rights abuses is a bit like citing the murderer's wife as an impartial witness. For context, Spain is a full constitutional…

Such democracy, so constitutional

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/08/spain-violat...

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#337
post #30

Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that…

It's ridiculous and wrong what LaLiga does. But it's also a weakeup call to consider ditching cloudflare's centralization.

Cloudflare has nothing to do with it. Actually you should further insist on using Cloudflare in Spain to increase the collateral cost of this ridiculous government decision as much as possible. Make it so not a single website works during football, and see if the government changes their tune.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#338

I'm in Spain as well and it sucks a lot. What I do now is I go thorough Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 VPN (set up on my router). Fixes the issue and there is practically no latency or bandwidth impact.

You mean 1.1.1.1. DNS? Or do they also serve a VPN through that IP?

They also have a wireguard VPN service called 1.1.1.1 (with WARP). My understanding is you basically VPN into a cloudflare datacenter so you don't have issues with cloudflare IPs being blocked

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#339
post #309

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This is the country that takes a 2 hour nap every day. They also have a sleeping contest every year with a winner and everything. And Spain isn't hot like Mexico where folks take 2 hours off in the topically heat and make it up for it in the evening because that's more efficient.

Have you ever spoken to a person from Spain?

or been to the south of Spain in summertime - it may not be Mexico-hot, but it's no picnic

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#340
post #14

Cloudflare is cancer. And the tumor is now too big.

Spain is mandating their ISPs block cloudflare to stop people from illegally streaming soccer games. Cloudflare isn't the one doing the blocking.

Isn't the ONLY one doing blocking.

I'm not from Spain and instead of Spanish ISP I get a block from CloudFlare.

Now take a wild guess: which one is bigger - some Spanish ISP or CF?

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