A decade or two from now your children will be dropping thousands of dollars to go to a concert to hear AI generated music from an AI generated artist.
And they'll "go to" the concert at home with their VR headsets
AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
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#332You can stop this in its tracks. Go on KEXP, find a new band you like, share it with your friends, buy a physical copy, buy a t-shirt, book tickets, like their stuff on socials. Watch the record companies flock to real bands. For the second time on this thread, start with Angine de Poitrine. Live music is the antidote.
I agree. When I had my kid I stopped going to concerts because of parenting, time, etc. Last year I went to the Warped tour and discovered some new bands, it changes the whole experience and my joy for music and discovering new bands like when I was young. I have listened to some AI music as a curiosity and the only way to describe it, it is soulless.
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#333It appears Apple/iTunes has already responded. He's no longer on the Top 100: USA list:
https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/top-100-usa/pl.606afcbb7...
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#334Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is formulaic pop music produced by a corporate label that's designed to push all the right buttons more "human" than the average track you find published on Suno? I wouldn't say so. Pop music was already to some extent a commodity.
Actually, it is more human, because there are humans involved at each level. Doesn't matter if you think the music sucks, it's definitionally more human than AI music.
On the other hand, humans made these AI models...
I feel like the more important distinction might be whether the creator(s) are expressing themselves or are solving an optimization problem of maximizing audience approval. The latter seems true for both some human and AI pop songs.
One is a form of communication that requires (at least to some extent) meeting both sides to meet in the middle, the other is unidirectional broadcasting.
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#335My favorite pasttime for the last 12 years, besides reading hacker news, is to make music on my phone, ipad or on my piano. Will I stop making music now that Suno is here? No frigging way. Because I still like to make music. I won’t stop talking either, just because some AI is better at doing conversation about research. If I make enough money on my latest, I will spend more time making music. Some of my music is ava…
Keep making music. Here is author Brandon Sanderson eloquently explaining why AI generated slop will never be art: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mb3uK-_QkOo
tl;dr: the final product is just a receipt of the effort, the sleepless nights, the self-doubt and personal transformation that goes into creating art. They have found a way to automate creating this receipt, without the personal transformation that an artist goes through, a process which leads her to learn more about herself and her place in the world.
An artist will find a way to leverage generative slop into this genuine process, but the by-the-bucket gruel generated in seconds from a prompt will always be a simulacrum of the real thing, despite how good it might sound.
I am pivoting from sterile software engineering where only product and revenue are the guiding metrics, to others where artistry and this personal drive for self-expression will always be valued, despite the attempts at diluting the field for a quick buck by talentless hacks.
The world will always care about Art. It is the most human of instincts.
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#336Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.
I get that feeling in Lidl. Their ambient music used to be somewhat identifiable, now it just seems a bit off.
Re: AI singer now occupies eleven spots on iTunes singles chart
#337Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.
I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song…
Among other already stated reasons I take listening to human made music as an investment. If everything is AI the originality will disappear because the already struggling artists will be pushed out even more. Even if they move elsewhere then the platform I currently use, and am comfortable with, will become useless to me.
I can’t enjoy listening to music I know was made by AI. If you can, power to you.
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Does sex and dancing not involve feelings and the soul? Is prostitution not a societal issue worth discussing through song?
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