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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by netbsdusers »

MarsIronPI wrote: post #212
thedelanyo wrote: post #73

Someone said - in Linux, everything is a file. In Microsoft, everything is a copilot. Lol.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux is in fact not the origin of the "everything is a file". More properly, "everything is a file" is a Unix concept and Unix's creators deserve credit for the idea. Though Plan9 carries it out much better: Unix networking isn't file-based, Plan9's is. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Plan 9 implements some sort of "everything has a directory entry" concept. Sockets are files already in Unix. "Everything is a file" in Unix means they have a uniform treatment as file descriptors. Its perfection is probably in Capsicum where when you create a new process, you get a process file descriptor referring to it instead of a PID.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by siva7 »

simonw wrote: post #249

The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…

If people ever wonder how this happens... let me tell you this is the organic evolution for giant multinational corporations. You have thousands of teams doing some computer stuff. And never, ever will it happen that responsibilities and product design get clearly cut for the hot ai stuff. At least hundreds of teams will fight to own a part of this "copilot" thing which leads to over a hundred new products named copilot. It's not just Microsoft, every single one of the big boys does this. You can't escape it. You know why? Because they all know the alternatives are even worse.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by cenamus »

netbsdusers wrote: post #331
MarsIronPI wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux is in fact not the origin of the "everything is a file". More properly, "everything is a file" is a Unix concept and Unix's creators deserve credit for the idea. Though Plan9 carries it out much better: Unix networking isn't file-based, Plan9's is. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Plan 9 implements some sort of "everything has a directory entry" concept. Sockets are files already in Unix. "Everything is a file" in Unix means they have a uniform treatment as file descriptors. Its perfection is probably in Capsicum where when you create a new process, you get a process file descriptor referring to it instead of a PID.

Sockets really aren't files im Unix though, you don't create them with (f)open, and you don't read/write with (f)read/(f)write

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by make3 »

zero_bias wrote: post #289
make3 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

gaming too I guess still

This won’t last for long too. Valve with SteamDeck and apparent future release of SteamMachine/SteamOS is preparing users for Linux gaming

either that or AAA games mostly becoming streamed from Clouds like Nvidia now

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by siva7 »

ValentineC wrote: post #51
lateforwork wrote: post #14

Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. How many products have Copilot? Just about all of them.

> Copilot is just Microsoft's term for AI. This comment really helps me put things in perspective. I'm guess now that it's Microsoft's way of naming their LLM-powered products/features, the same way "Azure" is basically their codename for "cloud".

As everything is grouped under cloud and ai at Microsoft, Azure means now basically anything produced by Microsoft.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Post by amelius »

simonw wrote: post #249

The thing that really confuses me about this is that it has very real negative consequences. I cannot have a conversation about Copilot! If someone says "I used Copilot to..." or "Copilot is great for..." or "Copilot sucks because..." they haven't communicated any useful information to me, because I have no idea what product they are talking about. And if I ask them (which I always do) they still have trouble describ…

It's similar to how difficult it was to search for .NET or C#
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