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Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

pxc wrote: post #296
ownagefool wrote: post #183

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Nobody really tries to get technical people to do the work. Like cool, it's a great idea and would potentially produce positive results if done well, but the roles pay half the engineering roles, and the interviews are stacked towards compliance frameworks. There's very little ability to fix a large public company when HR is involved

Maybe it should be treated like on-call duty and have the load spread between existing engineers on some kind of schedule, maybe with some extra comp as incentive because it's boring and will take more effort/time in the "easy case" compared to pager duty.

I think 12-24 month rotations would work really well, but given how the profession is currently setup, that would be difficult to do.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by saagarjha »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #293
saagarjha wrote: post #186

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Someone doing harm to you doesn't automatically mean you wish harm to them. Not that I necessarily take what Garry says at face value but it's definitely possible to unironically take this viewpoint.

"Betrayal" requires intent so it's not just any old harm. That may not automatically mean you wish them harm in return, but I believe it would be very uncommon to not.

This is a core tenet in at least one major religion

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by ragall »

maxbond wrote: post #304
ragall wrote: post #298

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> But that's just the cherry on top. That's not the right metaphor here.

What should I have used instead?

It's "the last straw" or "the drop that overflows the cup". The "cherry in the cake" is in need to be a good thing.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by maxbond »

ragall wrote: post #333
maxbond wrote: post #304

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What should I have used instead?

It's "the last straw" or "the drop that overflows the cup". The "cherry in the cake" is in need to be a good thing.

I appreciate the feedback. I'll consider how I can be more clear in the future.

My usage was ironic. I don't think those fit my meaning because I think the situation would be largely the same without the licencing dispute.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by gcr »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #293
saagarjha wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone doing harm to you doesn't automatically mean you wish harm to them. Not that I necessarily take what Garry says at face value but it's definitely possible to unironically take this viewpoint.

"Betrayal" requires intent so it's not just any old harm. That may not automatically mean you wish them harm in return, but I believe it would be very uncommon to not.

"Betrayal" also isn't the word that GT used.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by dmos62 »

soc2fraud wrote: post #327
madaxe_again wrote: post #160

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Similar boat. Seen the same shenanigans being played with actors who really should know better - everything from military secrets to medical data, and absolutely YOLOing it with an audit mill. I have it on good authority that there are superuser credentials floating around for their production systems that they’ve lost track of. And no, I won’t whistleblow either, as it would mostly be me that would face repercussion…

No NDA can prevent you from making protected communications about fraud, illegal activity, etc. If you have seen fraud that involves the military you can make an anonymous report to the DOD IG. If it involves medical data you can make an anonymous report to the HHS IG. Or, if you want to get rich off of it, there's another option. Happy to chat.

"Get rich off it" sounds shady as hell. What are you offering?

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by zipy124 »

woadwarrior01 wrote: post #307
peyton wrote: post #249

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To be fair, I’m not sure blatant lying in investor updates alone constitutes fraud. There needs to be harm (or the intent thereof) AFAIK. The other party needs to be using that information to make a decision. If you give me a dollar and then later I tell you I’m actually Beyonce, is that fraud? Or am I just a lying sonofabitch?

Lying in investor update was merely the tip of the iceberg. There was lots more, fabricating customer traction pre-investment, paying oneself back-pay for months spent twiddling thumbs pre-investment (before I was involved), etc. My lesson from the whole kerfuffle was that investors (at least the ones I’d dealt with) prefer hustle over integrity and execution abilities.

This makes sense because investors in startups just care that they aren't left holding the bag. As long as they aren't the final fool in the buy in chain, they don't care.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

gcr wrote: post #335
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Betrayal" requires intent so it's not just any old harm. That may not automatically mean you wish them harm in return, but I believe it would be very uncommon to not.

"Betrayal" also isn't the word that GT used.

It seems like an accurate paraphrase in the context of other known news about Delve, and it was shorter than "We trusted them to not do something intentionally fraudulent and then lie to us, and I believe they knowingly violated that trust by doing something intentionally fraudulent and lying to us."

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by guzfip »

maxbond wrote: post #147
huhkerrf wrote: post #121

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Why do non-Southerners keep insisting on this? Bless your heart can be said sincerely or ironically, like pretty much any other phrase.

The ironic usage makes for compelling dialogue and comports with stereotypes about Southerners as formal/restrained. So that's what ends up on television. At least that is how I think I came about having that impression.

> So that's what ends up on television.

Maybe 7-8 years ago I met an Iranian. They were genuinely shocked I wasn’t a cowboy hat wearing racist when I told them I was from the south.

I grew up in the Atlanta area.

Re: Delve removed from Y Combinator

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Post by [deleted] »

madaxe_again wrote: post #160
jacquesm wrote: post #145

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Yes. But I'm not working at either company and I'm 99.9% sure that it would lead to absolutely nothing other than a lot of misery for myself. The NDA's I sign have some pretty stiff penalties attached. I was actually hoping to see my trust in the auditing company confirmed and I'm still more than a little bit annoyed that they did not respond in a more constructive way. My response however is a simple one: I used to…

Similar boat. Seen the same shenanigans being played with actors who really should know better - everything from military secrets to medical data, and absolutely YOLOing it with an audit mill. I have it on good authority that there are superuser credentials floating around for their production systems that they’ve lost track of. And no, I won’t whistleblow either, as it would mostly be me that would face repercussion…

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