Artemis computer running two instances of MS outlook; they can't figure out why

Post by cwillu » Fri, Apr 03, 2026, 10:46 AM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #217

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Email is a pretty good way to send short text messages, but it's not great at sending files. The basic protocols are pretty simple and we've got a lot of experience using them. I can see the appeal of email. There's no way that outlook is the best tool for the job though, and it's no surprise at all that they're having problems with it. It's a complete mess with insane amounts of overhead and bloat if all you want to…

This comment is downvoted, but it is correct. Emailing a file takes roughly 30% more bandwidth than a file transfer protocol (any such protocol, not necessarily FTP) due to mime encoding.

Post by pas » Fri, Apr 03, 2026, 11:12 AM UTC

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Does the modern PWA-based outlook even support offline access? I know the old outlook that is no longer being updated does.

Old Outlook still works and is supported until ~2029. We still use it here.

Post by orf » Fri, Apr 03, 2026, 11:21 AM UTC

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It's also going to take a hell of a lot longer and cost more than buying an Outlook license. If I was lead on that project, you'd have an uphill battle trying to convince me that spending $100k+ on an email solution unless you can point to specific, serious deficiencies in the existing off the shelf solutions. Software Engineering is far from a lost art: part of the practice is intelligently making cost-benefit decis…

The current solution is literally causing problems in space. Space-grade engineering is expensive, but having things go wrong on your already very expensive mission is even more expensive.

Post by aaron695 » Fri, Apr 03, 2026, 11:30 AM UTC

notorandit wrote: post #284

The point is not running Windows or Outlook on a PC in space. The point is that the Software was not sealed, downloading upgrades while in space, sending telemetry back to Microsoft (or to whoever else). Those PC are like any other instrument onboard the spacecraft: it's status needs to be known and predictable by NASA. Not to talk about the amount of unknown and unpredictable extra traffic caused by those PCs onto t…

Post by tsoukase » Fri, Apr 03, 2026, 12:00 PM UTC

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https://www.businessinsider.com/artemis-astronauts-microsoft... > After Wiseman flagged the issue, Mission Control said it could remotely access his system with permission. > Soon after, a member of Mission Control said, "We wanted to let Reid know we are done remoting into his PCD 1." They added that the issue had been resolved and that the system would appear offline, as "expected." > The personal computing device,…

I love the idea that even on a mission to the moon the crew still needs to allocate a portion of their time to click through cookie consent banners, non skippable ads and fighting with windows update! Probably part of the effort to make the environment similar to life on earth to make the long trip more bearable.