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Consumers pro actively tell Facebook their age, sexual preference, race, relationship status, likes and dislikes, they check in to where they are and who they are there with… They are choosing to give Facebook info.

> They are choosing to give Facebook info. Yes, they do. That's is exactly the phenomena my comment addressed. But the way you wrote that implies an improbable motivation or choice framing. Perhaps their real motive/choice is to share with other people on the site. It is called a network effect. If (1) Facebook had been the surveillance/manipulation capital of the world from inception, (2) an equally inviting privacy…

Wouldn’t the most obvious way for people to protect their privacy while using FB if they cared and still wanted to use FB be not to proactively give them information? You don’t have to share everything I mentioned just to be involved in a group.

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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> They are choosing to give Facebook info. Yes, they do. That's is exactly the phenomena my comment addressed. But the way you wrote that implies an improbable motivation or choice framing. Perhaps their real motive/choice is to share with other people on the site. It is called a network effect. If (1) Facebook had been the surveillance/manipulation capital of the world from inception, (2) an equally inviting privacy…

Wouldn’t the most obvious way for people to protect their privacy while using FB if they cared and still wanted to use FB be not to proactively give them information? You don’t have to share everything I mentioned just to be involved in a group.

> You don’t have to share everything I mentioned just to be involved in a group.

This is clearly true. There is an implied point here but I am not sure what.

They share in their profile what they want other people to see. And often choose to not fill out everything. Nobody signs up to share with Meta, Inc.

Most people would love a "[ ] Do not share with Facebook".

People choosing an imperfect option, from imperfect options, are not demonstrating evidence they don't care about the imperfections.

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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Wouldn’t the most obvious way for people to protect their privacy while using FB if they cared and still wanted to use FB be not to proactively give them information? You don’t have to share everything I mentioned just to be involved in a group.

> You don’t have to share everything I mentioned just to be involved in a group. This is clearly true. There is an implied point here but I am not sure what. They share in their profile what they want other people to see. And often choose to not fill out everything. Nobody signs up to share with Meta, Inc. Most people would love a "[ ] Do not share with Facebook". People choosing an imperfect option, from imperfect o…

They are explicitly adding their information to FB why do they need a button to not share the information? Would the button disable them from checking in and updating their profile?

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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> You don’t have to share everything I mentioned just to be involved in a group. This is clearly true. There is an implied point here but I am not sure what. They share in their profile what they want other people to see. And often choose to not fill out everything. Nobody signs up to share with Meta, Inc. Most people would love a "[ ] Do not share with Facebook". People choosing an imperfect option, from imperfect o…

They are explicitly adding their information to FB why do they need a button to not share the information? Would the button disable them from checking in and updating their profile?

An E2EE system (e.g. as offered by Apple iCloud). Or a terms of service guarantee. (e.g. Dropbox, Anthropic and 1000 other companies that partition sharable user content from non-support divisions.)

> Would the button disable them from checking in and updating their profile?

No.

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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Already running qwen 70b 4-bit on m2 max 96gb through llama.cpp and it's pretty solid for day to day stuff. The mlx switch is interesting because ollama was basically shelling out to llama.cpp on mac before, so native mlx should mean better memory handling on apple silicon. Curious to see how it compares on the bigger models vs the gguf path

The key difference is that MLX's array model assumes unified memory from the ground up. llama.cpp's Metal backend works fine but carries abstractions from the discrete GPU world — explicit buffer synchronization, command buffer boundaries — that are unnecessary when CPU and GPU share the same address space. You'll notice the gap most at large context lengths where KV cache pressure is highest.

Insightful comment, thanks!

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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Good to see Ollama is catching up with the times for inference on Mac. MLX powered inference makes a big difference, especially on M5 as their graphs point out. What really has been a game changer for my workflow is using https://omlx.ai/ that has SSD KV cold caching. No longer have to worry about a session falling out of memory and needing to prefill again. Combine that with the M5 Max prefill speed means more time…

Yeah omlx seems to me like the front runner right now for running MLX models locally in agent workflows (which depend heavily on caching).

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

#337

On-device models are the future. Users prefer them. No privacy issues. No dealing with connectivity, tokens, or changes to vendors implementations. I have an app using Foundation Model, and it works great. I only wish I could backport it to pre macOS 26 versions.

Users don’t care about “privacy”. If they did, Meta and Alphabet wouldn’t be worth $1T+. Users really don’t matter at all. The revenue for AI companies will be B2B where the user is not the customer - including coding agents. Most people don’t even use computers as their primary “computing device” and most people are buying crappy low end Android phones - no I’m not saying all Android phones are crappy. But that’s wh…

Yeah I agree, I fear users don’t care “enough” about privacy that it will matter. :(

Care at all sure, but enough to make a difference, the history of the web and recent computing history indicates otherwise.

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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I see all these LLM posts about if a certain model can run locally on certain hardware and I don’t get it. What are you doing with these local models that run at x tokens/sec. Do you have the equivalent of ChatGPT running entirely locally? What do you do with it? Why? I honestly don’t understand the point or use case.

1. There are small local models that have the capabilities of frontier models a year ago 2. They aren't harvesting your data for government files or training purposes 3. They won't be altered overnight to push advertising or a political agenda 4. They won't have their pricing raised at will 5. They won't disappear as soon as their host wants you to switch

Thanks. I understand that.

What are you doing with it?

Why do you want it?

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

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I see all these LLM posts about if a certain model can run locally on certain hardware and I don’t get it. What are you doing with these local models that run at x tokens/sec. Do you have the equivalent of ChatGPT running entirely locally? What do you do with it? Why? I honestly don’t understand the point or use case.

Chat is certainly an option, but the real deal are agents, which have access to way more sensitive information.

Thanks. What do you do with such an agent? What is the use case?

Re: Ollama is now powered by MLX on Apple Silicon in preview

#340

On-device models are the future. Users prefer them. No privacy issues. No dealing with connectivity, tokens, or changes to vendors implementations. I have an app using Foundation Model, and it works great. I only wish I could backport it to pre macOS 26 versions.

These local models are far behind the capabilities of latest Gemini Pro, Claude Opus or GPT. Why waste time with subpar AI?

They’re not far behind, unless you mean for “vibe coding”. And for probably 85% of queries that people use LLMs for, you can’t even really perceive the difference between frontier and local.
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