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Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by wrqvrwvq »

dvt wrote: post #74
vrganj wrote: post #18

AI is fine . The hype is annoying. What's even worse though are the incredible amounts of money and energy that are being thrown at it, with no regard for the consequences, in times of record inequality and looming climate apocalypse. AI is the red herring that'll waste all our attention until it's too late.

> incredible amounts of ... energy So tired of seeing this trope. Data center energy expenditure is like less than 1% of worldwide energy expenditure[1]. Have you heard of mining? Or agriculture? Or cars/airplanes/ships? It's just factually wrong and alarmist to spread the fake news that AI has any measurable effect on climate change. [1] https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai/energy-supply-for-...

climate change is a hoax, but it's also disingenuous to pretend like ai delivers even an infinitesimal amount of the value of either agriculture or mining. Global population approaches zero without either of those things and if you deleted ai, no one would ever notice.

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Post by Terr_ »

lukev wrote: post #46

This is bad in tech. But at least we are (relatively) well equipped to deal with it. My partner teaches at a small college. These people are absolutely lost , with administration totally sold on the idea that "AI is the future" while lacking any kind of coherent theory about how to apply it to pedagogy. Administrators are typically uncritically buying into the hype, professors are a mix of compliant and (understandab…

I've been telling my curious/adrift relatives that it's a machine takes a document and guesses what "usually" comes next based on other documents. You're not "chatting with it" as much as helping it construct a chat document.

The closer they can map their real problems to make-document-bigger, the better their results will be.

Alas, that alignment is nearly 100% when it comes to academic cheating.

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Post by jFriedensreich »

Honestly, I am really surprised to not be bored of it more. Yet it seems to be existential enough, diversifying and developing fast enough to stay interesting. If the tooling gets boring, there will be some drama, if the corporate side gets boring, there will be some local inference maxxer, if all of that is boring there is some new alignment topic. What is even more surprising is no people around me seem to be tired of talking about it either. If i start talking about it, especially to non devs, I often pause to check If they can't hear it anymore, sometimes even ask explicitly but so far no one seemed to mind or even embrace it.

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Post by ej88 »

RivieraKid wrote: post #321
xvector wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I also know that by using it I’m contributing to making my job redundant one day. I don't see how this is the case if you're anything more than a junior engineer... it unlocks so many possibilities. You can do so much more now. We are more limited by our ideas at this point than anything else. Why is the reaction of so many people, once their menial work gets automated, "oh no, my menial work is automated." Why…

> I don't see how this is the case if you're anything more than a junior engineer... it unlocks so many possibilities. I really don't understand this way of thinking. Don't you think that AI could replace senior engineers? Sure, companies will be able to do bigger / better / more ambitious stuff - but without any software engineers. > Why is it BS? I'm shocked that anyone with a love and passion for technology can fe…

there doesnt seem to be a limit in terms of the ceiling of what companies can do with software, probably the most elastic demand out of any industry ever

the swe role is going to change but problem solving systems thinkers with initiative won't go away

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Post by username135 »

_doctor_love wrote: post #153

This might sound like snark, but I truly don’t mean it that way. I think what’s interesting about AI, and why there’s so much conversation, is that in order to be a good user of AI, you have to really understand software development. All the people I work with who are getting the most value out of using AI to deliver software are people who are already very high-skilled engineers, and the more years of real experienc…

AI Vampire is so perfect. Ive never thought of it that way but its right there.

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Post by triceratops »

dvt wrote: post #291
triceratops wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those links are about air pollution, not carbon emissions. You're engaging in some political posturing of your own.

Why are you lying? From literally the first paragraph of the CFR article: > China is the world’s largest source of carbon emissions, and the air quality of many of its major cities fails to meet international health standards.

But the focus of the article is on China's air quality.

As for carbon emissions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45108292

And even though China emits more carbon annually than the US today, the US and Europe are still ahead in cumulative emissions: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co2-emissions-.... Cumulative emissions are the carbon that's already in our atmosphere and causing heating today. If you want to apportion "blame" for climate change, then the US is 25% responsible, Europe is 30% responsible, and China is 14% responsible as of 2023. And India is only 3.6% responsible.

China's high emissions today power a manufacturing industry that has made cheap decarbonization via solar and batteries a realistic prospect. That's a much better use of their current emissions compared to what the developed countries do with theirs.

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Post by defrost »

dvt wrote: post #291
triceratops wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those links are about air pollution, not carbon emissions. You're engaging in some political posturing of your own.

Why are you lying? From literally the first paragraph of the CFR article: > China is the world’s largest source of carbon emissions, and the air quality of many of its major cities fails to meet international health standards.

China has a large population and does the dirty work of manufacturing for much of the rest of the entire world.

China has done more for renewable energy solutions than any other country, and their per capita population consumption patterns for personal are lower than many G20 countries.

In a fair representation of data, the total high carbon dioxide output from China should be assigned to source- the people across the globe with high personal consumption that have off shored their industry to China.

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