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Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by yanhangyhy »

defrost wrote: post #321
yanhangyhy wrote: post #319

This is the core flaw of the democratic system. Once a person gets elected, democracy effectively ends. Many of their policies may be harmful to the country, and their promises may not be fulfilled, but there is no punishment mechanism. As long as they step down from office, the media may criticize or mock them, yet no one really cares about the damage they caused. Leaving aside the fact that offshore wind power is a…

* This is the core flaw of the (USofA) democratic system. * Once a person gets elected, (USofA) democracy effectively ends. * Many of their policies may be harmful to the country, and their promises may not be fulfilled, but there is no punishment mechanism (in the USofA). All democratic systems are not the USofA .. the USofA hasn't progressed much since inception.

1. how did the HS2 project go in UK? anybody get punished? is it so clean that no corruption happens in this project even it spends so many money with very little progress?

2. Should someone be held responsible for Germany’s energy problems?

3. Sanae Takaichi is the prime minister of Japan with the highest vote share in recent years. Because of her poor foreign policy, Japan’s relations with South Korea, Russia, and China have all worsened, and her approval rating is now continuously declining.Should she be held responsible for these things? Or is it enough that she can simply be voted out next time?

4. Mongolia has the second-highest proportion of prostitutes in the world(#1 is Philippines, which has a simpilar system compare to USA) . Among the countries near Mongolia, it is considered by the media to be the most free and democratic. Why is Mongolia’s system unable to solve this problem? Or is this problem something that does not need to be solved? Does nobody need to be responsible for it?

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Post by defrost »

yanhangyhy wrote: post #331
defrost wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* This is the core flaw of the (USofA) democratic system. * Once a person gets elected, (USofA) democracy effectively ends. * Many of their policies may be harmful to the country, and their promises may not be fulfilled, but there is no punishment mechanism (in the USofA). All democratic systems are not the USofA .. the USofA hasn't progressed much since inception.

1. how did the HS2 project go in UK? anybody get punished? is it so clean that no corruption happens in this project even it spends so many money with very little progress? 2. Should someone be held responsible for Germany’s energy problems? 3. Sanae Takaichi is the prime minister of Japan with the highest vote share in recent years. Because of her poor foreign policy, Japan’s relations with South Korea, Russia, and…

It's unclear what any of this has to do with the implication in your GP comment that "democracy" and the "USofA system" were one and the same.

Flaws of the US system are not necessarily flaws in generic democracy, and may or may not be issues in other democracies.

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Post by yanhangyhy »

defrost wrote: post #332
yanhangyhy wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. how did the HS2 project go in UK? anybody get punished? is it so clean that no corruption happens in this project even it spends so many money with very little progress? 2. Should someone be held responsible for Germany’s energy problems? 3. Sanae Takaichi is the prime minister of Japan with the highest vote share in recent years. Because of her poor foreign policy, Japan’s relations with South Korea, Russia, and…

It's unclear what any of this has to do with the implication in your GP comment that "democracy" and the "USofA system" were one and the same. Flaws of the US system are not necessarily flaws in generic democracy, and may or may not be issues in other democracies.

i think they share similar systems and it's a flaw in generic democray. to be clear, i mean no Accountability.

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Post by sph »

bluGill wrote: post #81
paxys wrote: post #65

Serious question, but not entirely related to the topic - how are “smart” people in the US preparing for the next 20-30 years? - Assume everything will be fine and America will remain a global economic superpower. - Plan an exit to a more serious, stable country. - Some option in the middle of the two to hedge your bets?

I live in iowa - all my electric comes from wind, and I drive an ev or bike. I'm not worried

First they came…

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by leonidasrup »

jmward01 wrote: post #263
jmward01 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The symbolism, and the stupidity, was there though. As time has gone on it has been more clear every year how intelligent Carter's administration was and how terrible the following administration was. Investing in/promoting solar was just one of many smart moves by Carter that were attacked purely to gain political points that only harmed us in the long run.

"In the year 2000, the solar water heater behind me, which is being dedicated today, will still be here supplying cheap, efficient energy. A generation from now, this solar heater can either be a curiosity, a museum piece, an example of a road not taken, or it can be just a small part of one of the greatest and most exciting adventures ever undertaken by the American people: harnessing the power of the Sun to enrich…

Jimmy Carter has supported not only solar energy, but also domestic fossil fuel production and encouraged both of them. The policy of Carter administration never was to go 100% renewable.

"Our Nation's energy problem is very serious—and it's getting worse. We're wasting too much energy, we're buying far too much oil from foreign countries, and we are not producing enough oil, gas, or coal in the United States."

Energy Address to the Nation. April 05, 1979 https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/energy-address-the...

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Post by pptr »

happosai wrote: post #327
pptr wrote: post #248

This really seems like a nothing burger. The $1B were a refund. Net exchange ~$0. Building out fossile fuel production shifts oil revenue from various dictatorships around the world to the US in this case. That's a good thing. I wish we in Europe produced more gas ourselves instead of being highly dependent on other countries. This does not mean higher gas demand, which is what matters for CO2 reduction.

The production shifts oil revenue from Islamic dictatorships to Christian dictatorship of USA. Maybe a hyperbole for now, but for how long? Independent media and education under attack, gerrymandering your voting rights away etc. Considering most of the population lives is solid red or blue state and thus their vote for president doesn't count, how much of a democracy is USA when the minority of independents live in…

Voters in the US have the ability to actually change the course of their country. Voters can say they want Obama or Trump in charge and the government has to obey that choice.

In Europe you only have the same parties/"uniparty" in power all the time. Many people never had a representative they voted for.

I understand the nuance about the US voting system. But when I look at the outcomes, the US seems way more democratic than Europe.

Re gas demand: Renewables are cheaper than fossile fuels. They will obviously win out in a free market. No subsidies needed.

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Post by frm88 »

greeneggs wrote: post #189
Mashimo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it gets traded globally. That means if the price goes up in Asia, it also goes up in NA.

It doesn't have to be traded globally. The US could ban oil and gas exports, and that would decouple local prices from the global market.

Why the US can't use its own oil: it's the wrong type. https://blog.drillingmaps.com/2025/06/this-is-why-us-cant-us...

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Post by pptr »

danny_codes wrote: post #260
pptr wrote: post #248

This really seems like a nothing burger. The $1B were a refund. Net exchange ~$0. Building out fossile fuel production shifts oil revenue from various dictatorships around the world to the US in this case. That's a good thing. I wish we in Europe produced more gas ourselves instead of being highly dependent on other countries. This does not mean higher gas demand, which is what matters for CO2 reduction.

I would argue it’s a waste of resources. Fossil fuels will be phased out over the next 50 years. If China is an indicator it can be done quite a bit faster than you’d think. It’s already questionable to build fossil fuel capacity at today’s prices. In 10 years it won’t make any financial sense. In 20 you’d be laughed out of the room. Why waste money on a dying technology? It’d be like mining bitcoin

(Based on AI research) fossile fuel production takes a few years to recoup investment. Only refineries seem quite long term (15-20 years). I'm sure the companies have projections about future demand to decide which projects are worth pursuing. If they miscalculate, the oil companies loose money (oh no! /s). Anyway, you won't loose money on this.

There is of course also an argument about national security, not being at the whim of some Iranian dictator. So some form of government investment would be justified, but not necessary IMO.

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Post by [deleted] »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #251
elslopista wrote: post #141

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>A massive economy, industry and war machine are still here Those things are exactly what destroyed the nation. The military industrial complex and the billionaires who removed the teeth from institutions that used to prevent the accumulation of power (see also: antitrust litigation against Standard Oil). Those entities are now in complete control and democracy is nothing but a sham, a clown show between two faces of…

> Those things are exactly what destroyed the nation You're confusing the destruction of the dream of a nation with the desrtruction of the nation per se . The Roman Republic's fall was the destructionn of a dream. Those who thought they were witnessing the destruction of a nation, on the other hand, were dead wrong.

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