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Iran launched unsuccessful attack on UK's Diego Garcia

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Post by srean »

breppp wrote: post #272
logicchains wrote: post #210

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>Iranians have been categorized as “brown” so people lump them together with Somalians and Afghans. Even from a racist perspective that's completely wrong; Iranians are white, the name "Iran" literally means "Land of the Aryans".

> Iranians are white, the name "Iran" literally means "Land of the Aryans". The Indians were also Aryan according to race theories. I wouldn't put much sense into racism

Leaving the 'aryan' and 'white' bit aside there are mountains of things that are common between Indians and Iranians -- the system of classical music, musical instruments, mythological characters, food, and of course language.

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Post by throwaway132448 »

einszwei wrote: post #109
cardanome wrote: post #22

Accusing Iran of "lashing out" and being "reckless" by attacking US bases while the US and Israel literally murder school children, bomb hospitals and assassinate state leaders is rich. It didn't have to be this way but they decided this to turn into a fight of survival for Iran and destroy any option for a peaceful resolution. Now they are going to pay the price.

Your comment made me realise that while Iran has attacked a dozen countries, they have yet to attack a school or a hospital. Not condoning anyone but shows the priority of both sides.

This is obviously made easier when your opposition doesn’t stockpile their weapons in, nor conduct their military operations from, schools and hopsitals.

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Post by jopsen »

alephnerd wrote: post #173
jopsen wrote: post #128

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> it's all about managing upwards That might not work with the current administration. Which probably a/the problem.

It still does/is. Most of what I'm seeing with Iran is similar to what was discussed back in the early 2010s. There hasn't been significant churn in the NatSec space aside from political appointees, and core policymakers like Doshi, Maestro, Allison, Colby, and even Hill have worked with administrations irrespective of party affiliation.

The outcomes is very different from 2010, how so?

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Post by bigfatkitten »

gambutin wrote: post #92
cardanome wrote: post #15

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Iran is fighting for survival, Israel and the US are fighting by choice. They attacked Iran not the other way round. US bases, even if also used by UK which aides US it their war, are legitimate targets. US imperialism is the greatest threat to the world.

Iranian kids have been chanting death to Israel and death to USA for 47 years now. They’ve been waiting for this.

Funnily enough, they are still a bit salty about the US and UK overthrowing their government in 1953, because that government started asking questions about how much oil the UK was stealing.

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Post by idop »

GordonS wrote: post #300
jandrewrogers wrote: post #290

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Again, that's not "carpet bombing". Carpet bombing requires a type of aircraft that Israel doesn't have (though the US does). Why would you expect a precision bomb to have a JDAM package? That is not the only type of guidance package. In fact, most of the footage I've seen (largely Israeli) has clearly been laser-guided bombs. They aren't the same thing, and the latter is more precise than JDAM in any case. Use of pr…

Even if their actions might not precisely meet some dictionary definition of "carpet bombing", you know well what I meant - civilians and civilian infrastructure are being deliberately targeted with complete disregard for loss of life and environmental consequences.

You meant to lie, and you did lie, and you continue to lie. Standard TikTok rage where words no longer have meaning, reality must be rejected, and any headline is true even if the article directly negates it or there's no source, so long as it makes Israel look bad.

I swear, it's almost as if the anti-Israel mob _wants_ it to be true.

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Post by magic_hamster »

srean wrote: post #315
magic_hamster wrote: post #301

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I argue that anyone saying this is watching too many TikTok videos and not really familiar with what's going on. Without going into too much detail, my position and line of work means that I have to keep very informed on the middle east and so far I've seen a lot of hatred, and very little factual basis. In fact every single person I personally talked to was very uninformed on these matters which is fine, as long as…

https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

I'd appreciate if you didn't spam the same link all over my comments, once is enough. And as for "forensic architecture", please visit their website and go over who these people are - especially the Palestinians from Ramallah and self proclaimed "activists". This is by no means an unbiased organization.

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Post by verzali »

gizajob wrote: post #69
cardanome wrote: post #22

Accusing Iran of "lashing out" and being "reckless" by attacking US bases while the US and Israel literally murder school children, bomb hospitals and assassinate state leaders is rich. It didn't have to be this way but they decided this to turn into a fight of survival for Iran and destroy any option for a peaceful resolution. Now they are going to pay the price.

I can’t be an apologist for what’s going on but the Iranians seemed capable of killing tens of thousands of their own citizens in order to quash an uprising against the regime only weeks before the current events.

We should have little sympathy for them, but ill thought out war will do nothing to improve things for those citizens. Far more likely the opposite.

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Post by orwin »

catgary wrote: post #298
GordonS wrote: post #177

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I really is ridiculous, and somehow the number only gets bigger as the stories are told! Last I saw was "40,000 protestors murdered in just 24 hours!", or something very close to it. The US and Israel have been carpet bombing Iran for weeks now, blowing up hospitals, schools, power plants and residential buildings, yet the Iranian death toll is "only" around 1,500 so far. Yet we are to believe that Iran killed 40k of…

I think there are 5-7 thousand confirmed deaths by the UN, and medical reports in Iran estimated there could be 20,000+ casualties.

7 thousand confirmed death, 9 thousand unconfirmed death. Among that 1200 confirmed death from the regime forces, and 400 to be confirmed bystanders. The nurse burned to death by protesters is among those 400.

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Post by [deleted] »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #259
throwaw12 wrote: post #256

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> tens of thousands of their own citizens Any credible source for this? 1. Western media is not credible because West treats Iran as enemy 2. Iranian media is not credible because they obviously want to hide facts when they're negative Now my question is, why are you spreading unverifiable information as something credible and building your facts on top of it?

> Any credible source for this? For tens of thousands? No. That’s the upper end of estimates. For the brutality? Yes. Wikipedia is a good start.

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