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A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

jwrallie wrote: post #99
koolba wrote: post #64

> 移り箸 Utsuribashi (also known as 渡り箸 wataribashi) > To keep putting the chopsticks into the same side dishes. It is proper etiquette to first eat rice, move on to eat from a side dish, eat rice again, and then eat from a different side dish. So keto itself is a faux pas? > 返し箸 Kaeshibashi (also known as 逆さ箸 sakasabashi) > To turn the chopsticks around when serving food so that the tips of the chopsticks that have tou…

You will quickly learn the first one because if you keep eating the delicious side dishes you will be only left with large amounts of bland rice to eat last.

> if you keep eating the delicious side dishes you will be only left with large amounts of bland rice to eat last.

At a Chinese restaurant, you're not given more than a small bowl of rice anyway. There is no way to "be left with large amounts".

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by zephen »

kibwen wrote: post #67
0x3f wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I counter with the American swap-the-fork-hand-after-you-cut thing. Diabolical.

As an American, I don't think I have ever seen anyone do this.

As another American, I submit you really haven't been paying attention.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by lacoolj »

So it's the age of AI. And this seems like a great new benchmark! Lots of text, structured but each item a separate "task". Each thing requiring its own new image + textual representation.

I copy + pasted the whole article (minus the few included images) and added this prompt in Gemini 3 Pro:

> Take each of the following and add an image representing the act being described. The image should be very basic. Think of signs in buildings - exit signs, bathroom door signs, no smoking signs, etc. That style of simplicity. Just simple, flat, elegant vector graphic lines for the chopsticks, hands, bowls, etc.

Google Gemini output: https://gemini.google.com/share/11df1bc53e3d

I think this is pretty dang good for a one-shot run. I also ran this through Claude Opus 4.6 Extended (doesn't generate images directly, so it made an HTML page and some vector icons). Not as good as Gemini IMO. See here if curious: https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/8b6589b3-4da4-4fd5-b862-c...

Anyone able to do this better with a different prompt or model (or both)?

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by maxerickson »

dxdm wrote: post #306
maxerickson wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say I'm accurately reading "Western culture" as a nonsensical concept. Add an s and it gets a little better.

If mentally adding an "s" to the original comment enables you move past this issue and actually consider the comment as it was intended, then I would say that is well done and worth the effort to get to this point. :) Have a great Sunday!

consider the comment as it was intended

What do you think "reading" means?

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by xandrius »

kwar13 wrote: post #334

> 押し込み箸 Oshikomibashi (also known as 込み箸 komibashi) > To use the chopsticks to push food deep inside one’s mouth. That made me chuckle

Sheeet, seen quite a few people do it (not sure if Japanese or another culture) and just ingrained it as proper (just like slurping is in Japan). Gotta rethink that, lol.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by xandrius »

lacoolj wrote: post #333

So it's the age of AI. And this seems like a great new benchmark! Lots of text, structured but each item a separate "task". Each thing requiring its own new image + textual representation. I copy + pasted the whole article (minus the few included images) and added this prompt in Gemini 3 Pro: > Take each of the following and add an image representing the act being described. The image should be very basic. Think of s…

Nice that you discovered LLM, welcome.

But next time, keep your findings for a thread related to the topic of LLM wonders, not when it's unrelated, such as chopsticks.

Re: A Japanese glossary of chopsticks faux pas (2022)

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Post by PyWoody »

bagacrap wrote: post #264

Does it bother anyone else when people use their teeth to scrape food off a metal utensil (rather than lips, or teeth to food)? I wish English had a specific word for that affront.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who gets annoyed by this.

I was once at a table with someone who was eating tomato soup by putting the spoon into their mouth, bitting it, and then pulling the spoon out. I was losing my mind listening to it.

Dip, ting, dip, ting. Dip, OUCH!.

They chipped their tooth. They chipped a tooth eating tomato soup.

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