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Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by SoftTalker »

spicymaki wrote: post #206
october8140 wrote: post #130

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The future is human curated content. Provide the same experience people get today but without the noise. Give them just the good stuff and don't let just anyone make a post. A book has an author, a movie has a director, maybe websites can have webmasters again who filter through the garbage for you.

The future is meeting in person and watching performers actually perform live.

You've nailed it. Social media is no longer and will never again be a substitute for real human interactions. It sort of worked when it was mostly real humans, but that era is ending and not coming back. Algorithms are now controlling what you see, and bots and agents are increasingly creating and posting most of the content.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by dandaka »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #265
deanc wrote: post #120

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The bot problem cannot be solved. Even if you strongly authenticate, people are letting bots act on their behalf (moltbook is a great example of this) and what's to stop people doing that in the future. Build your identity and reputation autonomously with the benefits that come with that. This happens now on Onlyfans too. Content creators hire agencies which in the best case outsource chatting to "customers" to armie…

The bot problem can easily be solved. It’s just that no one likes the cure. Think about this for a minute: what would happen if you had a country where all its citizens could act anonymously with no consequences, no reputation, no repercussions, and no trace? Would you want to go there? Live there? No, because it would be a lawless wasteland dominated by the worst of the worst. Yet people act like the internet is som…

I can imagine a "anonymity" or "reputation" filter attached to every interaction in the internet. Enabled by default, but you can disable safe mode and see bots having fun.

Also for me problem is not in the anonymity itself, but in the lack of reputation. If I have a signal that entity can be trusted, I don't care much about its real identity.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by SoftTalker »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #111
dang wrote: post #7

Related - others? Digg.com Is Back - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46671181 - Jan 2026 (10 comments) Digg.com relaunch public beta is live - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46623390 - Jan 2026 (18 comments) Digg.com (Relaunch) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46524806 - Jan 2026 (3 comments) Digg.com is back - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44963430 - Aug 2025 (204 comments) Digg is trying to…

> Digg.com Is Back - Jan 2026 Damn, that didn't take long at all...

Well, it's like two major LLM models ago?

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by freedomben »

PaulHoule wrote: post #236
gzread wrote: post #200

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Stack Overflow is dead now.

I don’t think it was ever very good.

It was pretty decent in the mid and late 00s. The community started turning toxic in the very early 10s and by about 2015 was quite poisonous. The saddest part is that the problem was known and spoken about frequently, but the response to that from staff and/or high-level mods was to just double down and dig in.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by SoftTalker »

insin wrote: post #160
dwedge wrote: post #157

> This isn't just a Digg problem. It's an internet problem. Am I completely off base or did they use AI to write the post complaining about AI?

> Network effects aren't just a moat, they're a wall. Digg isn't just here again. It's gone again. The LLM style is like nails down a blackboard, are people blind to it or do they just not even read the stuff they're posting?

It's an LLM pattern but it was learned from training on these kinds of posts. People actually wrote that way, a lot, on the internet.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by dandaka »

figassis wrote: post #226

The problem seems to be identify, a real problem, and looks like it will only get worse. Would creating a zero knowledge digital identity service (maybe centralized, maybe decentralized idk), where you prove you're human via your government id, passport, driver license, whatever, and the service can then attest you're a real person? So if I'm Digg, I would ask for some form of OAuth, the system would simply verify th…

1/ KYC is pricey, and users might not want to pay for it

2/ Spammer can hire real people to farm accounts

I think this idea might work if we

- create reputation graph, where valuable contributors vote for others and spread reputation

- users can fine-tune their reputation graph, so instead of "one for all", user can have his personal customized graph (pick 30 authorities and we will rebuild graph from there)

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by tensor »

nichos wrote: post #305
koolala wrote: post #301

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I don't think the problem was spam content it was hate content. Hate can be organic

Who decides what "hate" is though? Does it switch with every administration? Free speech, including "hate speech" should be allowed, as long as it doesn't violate the law (calls to violence, etc)

"Free speech" means you have freedom from retribution from the government. It doesn't mean your fellow citizens need to stand there and listen to your shit, nor does it mean you are entitled to any sort of platform or megaphone. It means you can scream on the side of the road into the ether and you won't be arrested for it.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by bink »

PaulHoule wrote: post #243
bink wrote: post #15

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One of the things I always disliked about the original Digg was their threading. The slashdot like feed where the oldest comments were at the top and there was only one level of replies tended to encourage the "first" comments and harmed the quality of the discussion. I was glad to see it use a reddit-like comment thread for the new site, but it also meant there wasn't much reason to use it over reddit. I'm a bit sur…

Wasn’t part of the Reddit story was that they bootstrapped it with fake content?

Absolutely. They kinda brag about it now. But I think it was just the founders making multiple accounts. It sounds like the new Digg was worried about bots scaring people away from the site with thinly disguised ads.

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by whamlastxmas »

SoftTalker wrote: post #335
insin wrote: post #160

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> Network effects aren't just a moat, they're a wall. Digg isn't just here again. It's gone again. The LLM style is like nails down a blackboard, are people blind to it or do they just not even read the stuff they're posting?

It's an LLM pattern but it was learned from training on these kinds of posts. People actually wrote that way, a lot, on the internet.

I'd love to see an analysis of the prevalence of "it's not x, it's y" before and after 2022

Re: Digg is gone again

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Post by whamlastxmas »

int32_64 wrote: post #49

I would pay cash for access to a social site that bans all US politics, the astroturfing associated with it is simply unbearable.

Unfortunately unless you also ban it in comments, people with an axe to grind will find a way to bring it up in the most inappropriate places. Casual swipes at Elon and Trump and Biden or AOC (depending on your corner of the internet) will happen on stories about the nutritional value of school lunches or fundraising for some animal shelter. It even happens on HN constantly.
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