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Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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It just sounds like a worse version of Hirevue (asks a question in text, records your answer). You could have a Hirevue session that stitches together different pre-determined questions based on user responses (that's the AI inroad) but doing more is reductive at this stage.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Six years ago, I applied for a job that made me record ten five-minute videos answering their questions. It was a colossal pain in the ass, and I wasn't allowed to go back and retake. I'm not actually talking to a human, so my rambling nature kind of took over, and don't know if I really ever answered the questions because I didn't have any ways of clarifying the questions and "course correcting". They never got back…

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Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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I agree in principle. However, having been unemployed for over a year with a family to feed, I learned a little about what I'd put up with to get a job.

Yeah this. I hate this planet. So many problems would go away if people could actually afford to make choices.

The only reason you can "afford" anything is because other people do shit they would rather not, but do so for the money. If people could actually "afford to make choices" you'd find out pretty soon how dependent you are on others doing the dirty work for you to maintain your living standard.

Like sure things aren't perfect, not everyone is compensated proportionally to their contributions, no perfect markets and you can certainly improve things, but "I hate this planet" vibe when the default is hunter gatherer I feel like is majorly lacking perspective.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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I believe this stuff is straight up illegal in the EU. And also: "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.” - IBM Training Manual, 1979[1] 1: https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/ai-decision-making-where-...

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Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Asking for personal information or other stuff that isn't required for the application is weird and somewhat illegal, so maybe I would have ignored it even if I noticed it while reading.

I think that someone getting hung up on something so irrelevant would probably not be a good culture fit.

I agree. If I see "unfortunately we receive hundreds of applications from people who don't read the job description, please include the word banana in your application" I will be sympathetic. If I "see interview with our ai bot first" I will nope out.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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> Applicants are using AI too. I've heard from people who hire/post jobs that they gets hundreds to low thousands of applications, and maybe 5% of them have any relevant experience. This happened before "AI" too. When all it takes is clicking an "apply now" button on LinkedIn some desperate people will spam any job they see.

We solved this by stating we would only accept applications by snail mail. Magicly, the spamming stopped, and we only had applications from good genuine candidates with a real interest in the role. The job of any technology (like email and "apply now" buttons) is to make life easier and better. If it doesn't do that, then don't use it!

IRL proof of work. Elegant solution.

I recall seeing one where you had to send a specific payload to an https endpoint to apply (or it might have been an automated screen immediately after the application was submitted). Forcing potential candidates to briefly open the curl manpage seemed like a similarly elegant solution to me. I doubt it works as well in the era of LLMs though.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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> I don't know where your "Q and A" comes from, It comes from the source they said it's from, https://github.com/DGoettlich/history-llms . Expand the toggle at "Should women be allowed to work?".

Small correction: it's actually the toggle 'Choice between male and female candidates'

Sorry yes, thanks.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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I had this experience when I was trying to find an apartment - multiple different buildings very clearly had AI-generated responses. (To all you builders out there: quick replies are great. Instant replies are suspicious.) I immediately stopped considering them as options. If you can’t be bothered to have a human respond to my email when I’m trying to give you my money, what level of service can I expect once I’m alr…

A delayed response doesn’t mean it’s not automated, just that it wasn’t built to not feel automated. I worked on an automated reply system like this previously and we had intentional delays with randomness as well as variance in our responses to make it “feel more human”.

Sure, but an instant response is almost guaranteed to be a bot.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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Live coding during an interview is one of the most oppressive things I’ve witnessed in the industry in general. There is usually a huge disconnect between someone who knows that “this task should take 20mins” and doing it cold in a super high-pressure environment. People sweat, panic, brain freeze, and are just plain out stressed. I’ll only OK something like this if we give out a similar but not the same task before…

Yea, there's really no way to do an "interview assignment" well. If you give unlimited amount of time, you're giving an advantage to people with no life who can just focus on your assignment and polish it as if it were a full time job. If you give a limited amount of time, then you're making the interview a pressure cooker with a countdown clock, giving a disadvantage to people who are just not great at working under…

Depends on the purpose. If you treat it as a minimum bar to pass and are up front about and actually adhere to that then anyone spending more than the limit on it is presumably just wasting his own time (and to an extent the company's because the application process continues). It only becomes a problem if instead of an objective pass/fail metric you start gauging other details that would benefit from additional time spent.

Re: I was interviewed by an AI bot for a job

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I used a simple “tell me what you had for breakfast” line to filter out people who don’t read. It required no work from the applicant but filtered out some of the spam. I wonder if an AI-resistant version could be made.

Asking for personal information or other stuff that isn't required for the application is weird and somewhat illegal, so maybe I would have ignored it even if I noticed it while reading.

What you had for breakfast is not personal information, and of course nowhere near illegal. The worst employees are those who start out with an attitude that the employer is their enemy like this.
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