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Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by big_toast »

johnecheck wrote: post #324
big_toast wrote: post #199

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Is there any discussion somewhere about adding in the data that makes the x.com/twitter recommend/ranker so functional? The "Grok-based Transformer"[0] that uses P(click/dwell/not_interested/photo_expand/video_view) seems pretty important and I can't tell how atproto is capturing it. I use @spacecowboy17.bsky.social‬'s For You and from what I understand that feed wouldn't get that data? [0]: https://github.com/xai-or…

Personally, I really like that my feeds aren't getting that level of granular detail. I prefer the explicit control I have with 'Show more like this' and 'Show less like this'.

I generally think that. But letting dwell time/clicks/open-rates expand the recommender and then (bound to swipe) 'disinterested'/'show less like this' to cull has been pretty efficient. I used to feel dumped into simclusters and now I see a more specific subset of posts I prefer (while still casting what feels like a wide net).

I really liked when bsky introduced the 'show more/less' and then expanded it to custom feeds. But I'm afraid the recommender systems work better with more data. And I think the feed operator alone gets sent a limited set of interactions?

I'm not exactly sure how it would work in atproto but I could imagine an enriched 'graph-interactivity' where you can turn on and off which/how much signal/privacy you want.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by etchalon »

arcalinea wrote: post #71

Jay here: this is a transition I've been working towards for awhile, and I'm looking forward to advancing the vision and ecosystem as CIO (Chief Innovation Officer). Toni has been an advisor to us for years, and I personally recruited him to take over as CEO while I focus on new projects within the company. It's an honor to have him on board to lead us into this next stage of growth.

You did such amazing things. I'm excited to see what you do next.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by unselect5917 »

pron wrote: post #326
unselect5917 wrote: post #312

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That's a two year old article and X is the #1 news app today . How can you possibly construe that as "shrinking fast" if two years later it's in the top spot literally today? It seems like wishful thinking on your part rather than being reasonable based on first principles and the data at hand, from where I'm sitting.

The ranking compiled on Wikipedia is from a couple months ago. X is now behind Pinterest, Reddit, and LinkedIn (and of course, the major social players). Also, why would it be "wishful thinking"? BTW, on US iOS App Store, Claude today is way ahead of Chrome, Google Maps, YouTube, Gmail, TikTok, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Surely you don't think it means it's used by more people.

Again, the ranking from Apple is from today. Not "a couple months ago". And again, it's #1 while reddit is #4. So which is incorrect, Apple, or Wikipedia? It has to be one of them.

>Also, why would it be "wishful thinking"?

Because you've Motte & Balley'd twice now, each time in the direction of downplaying X's success. Because X is objectively doing great. #1st place is objectively great.

>BTW, on US iOS App Store, Claude today is way ahead of Chrome, Google Maps, YouTube, Gmail, TikTok, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Surely you don't think it means it's used by more people.

Are any of those news apps? This is the third Mott & Bailey. Again in the direction of denigrating X with bad data. So first principles and neutral data sourcing cannot be the reason for the inaccuracies - I dare say lies. It's flailing at this point.

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by UberFly »

tensor wrote: post #300
partiallypro wrote: post #263

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BlueSky is vastly worse than Twitter/X now or ever was. It was a good idea, but it ruins the "community square" aspect when BlueSky has just become a total echo chamber. Twitter is still diverse, even if voices that were once banned now have bigger platforms. Now I'd rank BlueSky has a net negative for society. It's basically a DailyKos leaning miniblog with a small userbase. Things you would just used to find in com…

You rank Bluesky as a net negative for society and a rank what’s become ann alt-right propaganda service as diverse? Interesting. No thanks.

There are plenty of opinions on X. Are you just upset that there are diverse political opinions on there now?

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Post by tapoxi »

KoftaBob wrote: post #261
marxisttemp wrote: post #230

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Why did you deliberately steal Mastodon’s thunder? Why don’t you support ActivityPub?

What thunder? Mastodon has had nearly a decade to go mainstream and it's still mostly tech enthusiasts explaining to their friends what an 'instance' is. ActivityPub is fine if you enjoy your identity being held hostage by whatever random server admin decides to keep the lights on. Want to move servers? Hope you're cool with losing your followers. Want real account portability? Too bad. Want scalable search and flexi…

How many Bluesky servers are there?

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by datahack »

subscribed wrote: post #314
yuestion wrote: post #216

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With the new CEO in place, are there any plans to deal with the obnoxious userbase of Bluesky, and perhaps try to expand it out to reach people who don't exhibit such high levels of toxicity?

And that in comparison to Reddit ot Twitter?! :D

The majority of humanity is not meaningfully engaged even if they are active on social media platforms.

It has a long way to go.

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Post by KingMob »

nailer wrote: post #318
chaosharmonic wrote: post #282

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Elon Musk is all of those things personally (see: that heil-handing incident), and it's public knowledge that he made the Twitter engineering team amplify his own posts.[1] [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/report-musk-had-...

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> Many other public figures have raised their hands this way on video

Lol. If you really believe this, try doing it on a busy street, and watch the responses you get.

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Post by denkmoon »

unselect5917 wrote: post #333
pron wrote: post #326

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The ranking compiled on Wikipedia is from a couple months ago. X is now behind Pinterest, Reddit, and LinkedIn (and of course, the major social players). Also, why would it be "wishful thinking"? BTW, on US iOS App Store, Claude today is way ahead of Chrome, Google Maps, YouTube, Gmail, TikTok, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Surely you don't think it means it's used by more people.

Again, the ranking from Apple is from today . Not "a couple months ago". And again, it's #1 while reddit is #4. So which is incorrect, Apple, or Wikipedia? It has to be one of them. >Also, why would it be "wishful thinking"? Because you've Motte & Balley'd twice now, each time in the direction of downplaying X's success. Because X is objectively doing great. #1st place is objectively great. >BTW, on US iOS App Store,…

Putting a lot of weight on a single data point there. How does Apple even choose the top apps? Why assume it’s some reliable metric for use?

Re: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber is stepping down

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Post by parl_match »

jrflowers wrote: post #303
parl_match wrote: post #252

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> Wait what do you think “the pancakes/waffles thing” refers to? You posted 2 hours ago that you had never heard of it. Quote me where I said I've never heard of the pancake/waffles thing? Of course I've heard of it, it's been around for a decade or so. > I can see that how it could be confusing because there’s “the pancakes/waffles thing” where Jay wrote about about people complaining to the CEO when the moderation…

> Quote me where I said I've never heard of the pancake/waffles thing? Of course I've heard of it, it's been around for a decade or so. Here is a link to your comment about not having seen it in the context of the discussion you are posting in. When people talk about the pancakes/waffle thing in this context they are not talking about a meme from several years before Bluesky existed but rather a specific event (which…

> When people talk about the pancakes/waffle thing in this context

That makes sense. The original meme was widespread and this is fairly niche.

> That seems unnecessarily hostile, especially given I was responding to this comment of yours.

No man, I really mean it. Maybe it's hostile, but also, people talking about this legitimately sound, I don't know... unhinged? Off? I am flustered, because of how ridiculous this all is to me. I'm serious.

Like, "the CEO of blue sky said waffles to me and it was a 4d comedy dunk!" or whatever. It's like a Ralph Wiggum quote. What the fuck?

So, I think this topic is at its end. But really, read aloud what you wrote. Seriously, try it, you might find it grounding.

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Post by KingMob »

guywithahat wrote: post #186

This makes sense, they've had a lot of issues with cp and have generally developed a poor reputation for their user-base and bans. It seems more like a systemic issue to me rather than a CEO issue, but I suppose all issues start at the CEO level in some regard

Agree. You'd think Musk would do something about the CSAM AI. I guess he reined it in a bit, at least.
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