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Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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> If you delete your account, we will delete your data within 30 days, except we may retain a limited set of data for longer where required or permitted by law.

It's this expression that breaks the deal for me. There's always such wide, vague exception that might be interpreted differently each time, depending on the context!

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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> If you delete your account, we will delete your data within 30 days, except we may retain a limited set of data for longer where required or permitted by law. It's this expression that breaks the deal for me. There's always such wide, vague exception that might be interpreted differently each time, depending on the context!

They factually already have a legal requirement to keep every single chat so it's pretty misleading to say they're hard deleted when they never are

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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I agree, if you can do boycott all of them (and maybe use open weight models locally or on e2ee cloud inference providers) - BUT I also think it 's crucial at a moment like this to take a stance against corporations like openAi that sign with the War Department, willing to introduce mass surveillance and autonomous weapons powered by brittle LLMs. This is a recipe for disaster and the only way they will sway away is…

> HIGHLY unlikely the DoW would give them a different terms than Antrohopic [sic] I disagree. OpenAi getting the same deal while Anthropic is made a punching bag for resisting. This is very on brand, do not cross the King in public. The Trump-Epstein administration is obsessed with social media and how they are perceived. Right vs wrong, consistency, accuracy, truth... these are all secondary to appearing "strong" or…

Maybe you are right. Also, turns out Altman was just doing the Altman thing all along.

"On the very same day that Altman offered public support to Amodei, he signed a deal to take away Amodei’s business, with a deal that wasn’t all that different. You can’t get more Altman than that."

https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-whole-thing-was-scam

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

I generally agree with your take but the juvenile name-calling really weakens the point.

Generally I would agree, only in this case the name seems to fit the person better than the actual name.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

> also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies.

What is wrong with ads? I personally dislike them and prefer to just pay for services, but it seems that majority of people prefer "free"-ad-supported model.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #298

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Whom do we trust regulation with? Current US admin which is being run by team idiocracy, Europe that is run by senile men who don't even understand tech or can't even come to a consensus on smallest of issues or China which only does things that benefit their autocrats? The issue is much more complex than "just regulate it" unfortunately.

What if the issue is that we always think valuable change to be too complex and therefore not worthwhile?

Dunno but seems like we need a lot of good strategies for this. It's a tough problem that needs to be solved with dedication.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Posting it here as a top-level comment as many people asked why boycott just openAi: ----- openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both o…

> also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. What is wrong with ads? I personally dislike them and prefer to just pay for services, but it seems that majority of people prefer "free"-ad-supported model.

I’d argue that it’s not specifically that they prefer it, it’s that they don’t understand and appreciate what they’re selling to get whatever service without paying money. Now that we live in a world where everything is collected, aggregated, sold, and weaponized regardless of you paying or not, maybe it doesn’t matter much anyway.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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post #322

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FYI I am a paying Workspace customer. I disabled Gemini retention. Doing so means no chat history sidebar- all are ephemeral. It was org-level. That became impractical. I re-enabled it. Magically, all of my old chats were back. The ones during no retention mode weren’t there. Perhaps if I’d left it off for more than 30 days the old stuff would have been truly removed. The point is there is no conversation-level contr…

This sounds like a news worthy observation, to me. That Google doesn't delete your data when you ask to.

I’d love to see a lawyer point out how this is no different legally from the NSA only “collecting” your data if a human actually views it and is therefore totally above board and adhering to the letter of the law.

https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/new-documents-sh...

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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> If you delete your account, we will delete your data within 30 days, except we may retain a limited set of data for longer where required or permitted by law. It's this expression that breaks the deal for me. There's always such wide, vague exception that might be interpreted differently each time, depending on the context!

Logically and legally equivalent to "we will keep your data forever unless legally required to delete it.".

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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PSA: Export your ChatGPT conversations before cancelling If you're thinking about cancelling (or switching to Claude/Gemini), don't lose months of conversations first. I built Basic Memory — it imports your ChatGPT export and turns it into plain Markdown files. Every conversation becomes a file you can actually read, search, and use with whatever AI you switch to. This is not an ad. It is free and open source. Your d…

I suspect that the export feature is going to be "broken" for a good long while; I've been waiting for mine since 8 am ... a little over 5 hours now.
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