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Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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It's worth keeping in mind that Loops is made by dansup which has also made and runs Pixelfed, FediDB, and has a history of being hostile to developers. You can see the recounting of his hostility at https://dansup-open-letter.github.io/appendix/ (I'm not a signature of the open letter)

And this needless drama is relevant why? Can we keep that on the fediverse please?

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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I briefly hosted a Lemmy server on my machine just to see how it works and my god never again. The pictures that were automatically synced to my machine did not only make me lose faith in humanity, but it made me shut down and wipe my machine immediately because I was terrified that some of those images would land me some serious jail time. So if you choose to host something like this, be very aware that there are so…

This has nothing to do with Lemmy, but more with any social media that is just open to the general public. Ask the moderator teams of Facebook, what they encounter day to day. Many of these poor folks work in shitty job conditions and burn out leaving with PTSD. If you spin up a fediverse app like Lemmy, you spin up a platform. It is platform software. And you get the responsibility, but also the opportunity , to set…

> Curate the content in your instance

How do i do that without getting PTSD as well? Or is there some magic method that works without me looking at CSAM and gore constantly?

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Would you prefer that they do it without dignity?

I would prefer they don't do it at all, unless there's a medical urgency.

Ah yes, a reply in true hacker fashion, if people only were that binary. Just don't use, then addiction wouldn't be a thing! Problem solved. We can see it all around, the now 55 years war on drugs has been a great success!

I'm not sure if you ever had to deal with someone addicted close to you, but it is heartbreaking. They are already ashamed of themselves and suffer. The last thing you want to do is take away their dignity, because that shuts them out and puts the path to recovery even further. They are still humans you know, just with a problem. They need help, not a trashing. That they are already doing to themselves.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with Lemmy, but more with any social media that is just open to the general public. Ask the moderator teams of Facebook, what they encounter day to day. Many of these poor folks work in shitty job conditions and burn out leaving with PTSD. If you spin up a fediverse app like Lemmy, you spin up a platform. It is platform software. And you get the responsibility, but also the opportunity , to set…

> Curate the content in your instance How do i do that without getting PTSD as well? Or is there some magic method that works without me looking at CSAM and gore constantly?

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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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There is the simpler version that is approximately "you can only get in if someone vouches for you. If a person you vouch for misbehaves you get punished as well". That's effectively a "tree of trust" with skin in the game. And it's incredibly successful, used in lots of communities, crime rings, job recommendations, etc. Any attempt to generalize this by allowing multiple weak vouches instead of a single strong one,…

Wouldn't that be easy to bypass by just adding one or two proxy accounts? Say person A invites me (a bad actor). I could invite a second throwaway account, with which I invite a third throwaway account. I do bad things on my third account. Could you reasonably punish person A for this? You'd first have to prove that the throwaway accounts all belong to me.

No one has to proof anything. If A invites B and B invites C who acts openly bad, you can remove all parties at once and maybe revoke on appeal. All up to the community. Otherwise it would be indeed simple to defeat. But before banning A, one can also just give a Warning. No restrictions here in principle, but I am also open for concrete implementations that work well.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has nothing to do with Lemmy, but more with any social media that is just open to the general public. Ask the moderator teams of Facebook, what they encounter day to day. Many of these poor folks work in shitty job conditions and burn out leaving with PTSD. If you spin up a fediverse app like Lemmy, you spin up a platform. It is platform software. And you get the responsibility, but also the opportunity , to set…

> Curate the content in your instance How do i do that without getting PTSD as well? Or is there some magic method that works without me looking at CSAM and gore constantly?

Whitelist instead of blacklist seems like it would work.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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> I love love love how you deny people both their enjoyment and their dignity. You are a truly moral person; I hope you have numerous progeny. Only enjoyment from drugs, they're free to do it with dignity without enjoyment.

The point is, you don't have a say in this.

Sure I do. I don’t have a say in how they spend their time, but if I catch a whiff that someone is doing hard drugs for fun then I’m going to treat them differently than someone addicted and going through a rehab.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would prefer they don't do it at all, unless there's a medical urgency.

Ah yes, a reply in true hacker fashion, if people only were that binary. Just don't use, then addiction wouldn't be a thing! Problem solved. We can see it all around, the now 55 years war on drugs has been a great success! I'm not sure if you ever had to deal with someone addicted close to you, but it is heartbreaking. They are already ashamed of themselves and suffer. The last thing you want to do is take away their…

That’s what I said, though? If they’re addicted and working on their addiction – there’s a medical reason why they do it. If they’re shooting heroin for fun, then they’ll get nothing but scorn from me.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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I briefly hosted a Lemmy server on my machine just to see how it works and my god never again. The pictures that were automatically synced to my machine did not only make me lose faith in humanity, but it made me shut down and wipe my machine immediately because I was terrified that some of those images would land me some serious jail time. So if you choose to host something like this, be very aware that there are so…

As much as I try to avoid AI hype, this truly seems like one of the best uses of image recognition tech
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