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It's always been this way, though. From tall tales of hunting or combat, the town crier spread propaganda from the lords to the public.
Why the fuck are there downvotes?
not from me.
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It's the line that facebook, and functionally every platform based on user content always tries to walk. They want sexual content because it drives engagement, positive and negative, more than almost anything. But they don't want to be held liable for the content, so they put weak policies in place so that they have the appearance of doing something to prevent it. This makes almost every current social media and cont…
If you're ignoring the giant societal can of worms, you're not getting a good understanding of the situation. In the 2010s the zeitgeist was that they were too prudish , and Instagram in particular faced a number of controversies for taking down topless photos that the subject of the photo felt should have been allowed. I guarantee that, for almost every piece of sexual content you've seen on Meta platforms, there's…
I'm actually one of those people. I don't think breasts are some great evil.
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It's the line that facebook, and functionally every platform based on user content always tries to walk. They want sexual content because it drives engagement, positive and negative, more than almost anything. But they don't want to be held liable for the content, so they put weak policies in place so that they have the appearance of doing something to prevent it. This makes almost every current social media and cont…
I mean rally sexual. Not sexy as in instagram girls. Showing the asshole or things like that.
Nope that's still subjective. How do you differentiate between an educational medical video about someone's asshole, vs a medical fetish asshole video?
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There are a lot of vocal angry people and bots around who hate everything billionaires say, do, or wear. Tuning out that noise while still noticing genuine bad things billionaires do is really hard.
There are enough verifiable actions by Zuckerberg that proxy for some sort of behaviour unaligned with the wellbeing of society/humanity. You don't need to cut out the noise here, if there's even any on e.g. HN
But it's not just Zuckerberg. It's all billionaires with any public profile.
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Yes, it is. Anything with a wide userbase that worsens or even just intensifies mood will lead to elevated suicide rates. If your boss picks someone else for the promotion and you kill yourself over it, your boss didn't kill you. If you're attracted to someone and they marry someone else and you respond similarly, same answer. If your instagram friends post pictures of their happy lives and it makes you feel bad, etc…
We have decades of research now showing concretely the harmful effects of social media, especially for people under 18. It is not debatable. It directly harms broader society and individuals yet we continue to have incredibly thin regulations that are barely enforced.
Help me out here. This has been happening to me a lot lately and I have to assume it's a failure to communicate on my part. I only intended to dispute that this should be called 'killing people'. I tried to indicate that I still think it's bad even if not described in that way.
Is there something that I said or failed to say that lead you to believe otherwise, or are you intending this reply as an argument that it should be called 'killing people' in a way I'm not understanding?
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That’s such false equivalence nonsense.
It certainly wouldn't be equivalence, but it would be another 4 years of expanding presidential powers only for a republican to come to power after that, or after 8 years. It really doesn't matter. The system keeps changing to put us more a risk of a bad president being effectively bad. Two of the most authoritarian decisions by the supreme court have been progressive in nature: Kelo v. City of New London - where the…
How is this specific to Bernie?
You essentially seem to be making an argument for the status quo because you're terrified that anyone who promises to improve things will become authoritarian.
It's the most conservative argument ever.
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And here I thought the internet was about the free exchange of ideas and knowledge. And free will was the ability to choose to use social media or not.
I don’t know why you’re getting sarcastic with me. I also imagine you’re aware of the addiction element but if not I can send some studies/research along. Social media companies have decades of work and billions of dollars of research to pull from. They use every single trick and tool they can to make it an addiction. The dialogue and shared strategies between them and the gambling industry is enough of a red flag on…
I mean I work in tech. I’m 39. I’ve been on social media my entire life. At one point I was addicted. I cut social media down to 3 hours a week now I’ve taken years off in the past. I’ve also beaten alcohol addiction after the loss of my son. I’ve also quit gaming because I couldn’t balance it. Should we ban gaming? Should we ban marketing? Billboards? I see booze everywhere and yet no one is saying people with alcohol addictions are harmed by these ads.
I understand the psychology of marketing and what these companies do to exploit that.
At the end of the day if it’s about the kids. The parents should be educated at this point.
When I was a “tween” I was building CGI blogs and myspacing before moving from Perl to PHP; in high school you needed a college email address to sign up for Facebook so that didn’t come for until after I graduated high school in 2004.
Sure things have changed but I find if I pause and reflect daily and stay in the moment I don’t ever doom scroll or need social media.
Even now this comment is only being written bc I’m taking a poo.
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It's certainly a stretch to describe that as killing people. You can argue it's a an acceptable stretch, or that it's still very bad even if described more accurately, but it is plainly not what 'killing people' traditionally means
"this product leads to elevated suicide rates among users" being equated to "this is killing people" is not a stretch
Umm.. check the side effects of every anti depressant ever…
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And yet you mixed strong advice with childish dismissal. But I agree, you should present your best argument, otherwise they'll attack your weakest argument and claim victory. Such tactics are weak in logic but often successful.
And you mixed childish pedantry with a general agreement.
I am often pedantic. But here I think it's instructive. One can easily use name-calling without realising it.