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Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by [deleted] »

honeycrispy wrote: post #277
andrewchilds wrote: post #244

Many people have reported Opus 4.6 is a step back from Opus 4.5 - that 4.6 is consuming 5-10x as many tokens as 4.5 to accomplish the same task: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/23706 I haven't seen a response from the Anthropic team about it. I can't help but look at Sonnet 4.6 in the same light, and want to stick with 4.5 across the board until this issue is acknowledged and resolved.

Glad it's not just me. I got a surprise the other day when I was notified that I had burned up my monthly budget in just a few days on 4.6

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Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by lawstkawz »

cracki wrote: post #169
jama211 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This honestly reads like a copypasta

I wouldn't even rate this "pasta". It's word salad, no carbs, no proteins.

You! Of all people! I mean I am off the hook for your food, healthcare, shelter given lack of meaningful social safety net. You'll live and die without most people noticing. Why care about living up to your grasp literacy?

Online prose is the least of your real concerns which makes it bizarre and incredibly out of touch how much attention you put into it.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by zozbot234 »

lemonfever wrote: post #300
grav wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to understand how two LLMs would be "consuming" a different amount of tokens given the same input? Does it refer to the number of output tokens? Or is it in the context of some "agentic loop" (eg Claude Code)?

Most LLMs output a whole bunch of tokens to help them reason through a problem, often called chain of thought, before giving the actual response. This has been shown to improve performance a lot but uses a lot of tokens

Yup, they all need to do this in case you're asking them a really hard question like: "I really need to get my car washed, the car wash place is only 50 meters away, should I drive there or walk?"

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by xyzsparetimexyz »

ljm wrote: post #222
the_duke wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An Anthropic safety researcher just recently quit with very cryptic messages , saying "the world is in peril"... [1] (which may mean something, or nothing at all) Codex quite often refuses to do "unsafe/unethical" things that Anthropic models will happily do without question. Anthropic just raised 30 bn... OpenAI wants to raise 100bn+. Thinking any of them will actually be restrained by ethics is foolish. [1] https:/…

I'm building a new hardware drum machine that is powered by voltage based on fluctuations in the stock market, and I'm getting a clean triangle wave from the predictive markets. Bring on the cryptocore.

why cant you people write normally

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by KronisLV »

MrCheeze wrote: post #321
andrewchilds wrote: post #244

Many people have reported Opus 4.6 is a step back from Opus 4.5 - that 4.6 is consuming 5-10x as many tokens as 4.5 to accomplish the same task: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/23706 I haven't seen a response from the Anthropic team about it. I can't help but look at Sonnet 4.6 in the same light, and want to stick with 4.5 across the board until this issue is acknowledged and resolved.

In my experience with the models (watching Claude play Pokemon), the models are similar in intelligence, but are very different in how they approach problems: Opus 4.5 hyperfocuses on completing its original plan, far more than any older or newer version of Claude. Opus 4.6 gets bored quickly and is constantly changing its approach if it doesn't get results fast. This makes it waste more time on"easy" tasks where the…

I got the Max subscription and have been using Opus 4.6 since, the model is way above pretty much everything else I've tried for dev work and while I'd love for Anthropic to let me (easily) work on making a hostable server-side solution for parallel tasks without having to go the API key route and not have to pay per token, I will say that the Claude Code desktop app (more convenient than the TUI one) gets me most of the way there too.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by cedws »

andsoitis wrote: post #77

I’m voting with my dollars by having cancelled my ChatGPT subscription and instead subscribing to Claude. Google needs stiff competition and OpenAI isn’t the camp I’m willing to trust. Neither is Grok. I’m glad Anthropic’s work is at the forefront and they appear, at least in my estimation, to have the strongest ethics.

I’m going the other way to OpenAI due to Anthropic’s Claude Code restrictions designed to kill OpenCode et al. I also find Altman way less obnoxious than Amodei.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by krystofee »

Does anyone know when will possibly arrive 1M context windows to at least MAX x20 subscriptions for claude code? I would even pay x50 if it allowed that. API usage is too expensive.

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by e12e »

madihaa wrote: post #9

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Is this referring to some section of the announcement?

This doesn't seem to align with the parent comment?

> As with every new Claude model, we’ve run extensive safety evaluations of Sonnet 4.6, which overall showed it to be as safe as, or safer than, our other recent Claude models. Our safety researchers concluded that Sonnet 4.6 has “a broadly warm, honest, prosocial, and at times funny character, very strong safety behaviors, and no signs of major concerns around high-stakes forms of misalignment.”

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by simianparrot »

How do people keep track of all these versions and releases of all these models and their pros/cons? Seems like a fulltime hobby to me. I'd rather just improve my own skills with all that time and energy

Re: Claude Sonnet 4.6

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Post by ac29 »

synergy20 wrote: post #117

so this is an economical version of opus 4.6 then? free + pro --> sonnet, max+ -> opus?

Opus is available in Pro subs as well and for the sort of things I do I rarely hit the quota.
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