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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by flakeoil »

supermatt wrote: post #275
joe_mamba wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>as a young preteen in the 90s and 00s, I made a lot of online friends As another 90s preteen, sure, but the internet today has a lot more pedos and groomers online than in the 90s, and preteens today easily share footage of themselves to those adult weirdos, which didn't happen in the 90s because mostly limitations of technology. BUt if you look at tiktok live it's full of preteen girls dancing, and creepy old men d…

The solution is parents using the parental control feature on their children’s devices. If laws need to be made about something it should be to punish those parents who neglect to safeguard their children using the tools already available to them. If the parental controls currently provided aren’t sufficient then they should be modified to be so - in addition to filtering, they should probably send a header to websit…

I think firstly the kids need to get education about this subject in school. The dangers online, the tools to use to protect oneself etc.

Secondly the parents need some similar education, either face-to-face education or information material sent home.

It will not prevent everything, but at least we cannot expect kids and parents to know about parental control features, ublock origin type tools or what dangers are out there.

We have to trust parents and kids to protect themselves, but to do that they need knowledge.

Of course some parents and kids don't care or do not understand or want to bypass any filters and protections, but at leaast a more informed society is for the better and a first step.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by well_ackshually »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #309
supermatt wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution is parents using the parental control feature on their children’s devices. If laws need to be made about something it should be to punish those parents who neglect to safeguard their children using the tools already available to them. If the parental controls currently provided aren’t sufficient then they should be modified to be so - in addition to filtering, they should probably send a header to websit…

> The solution is parents using the parental control feature on their children’s devices. This is a stopgap at best, and to be blunt, it's naive. They can go on their friends' phones, or go to a shop and buy a cheap smartphone to circumvent the parental controls. If the internet is locked down, they'll use one of many "free" VPN services, or just go to school / library / a friend's place for unrestricted network acce…

In what universe do you live where children have enough disposable income to buy a smartphone ?

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by 71bw »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #313

Worth noting when you open up the developer tools console in discord (facebook and some other sites do it too), you get a regular message printed with "If someone told you to copy/paste something here, there’s an 11/10 chance you’re being scammed." and then "Pasting anything in here could give attackers access to your Discord account." in bold+red text. It used to also mention "free nitro" as an example of a scam you…

>I've heard, but haven't confirmed, they also detect you opening developer tools using various methods and remove your auth keys from localstorage while you have it open to make account takeovers harder. (but not impossible)

No, they just keep moving it between updates. It's still there. It just gets harder to extract.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by LadyCailin »

varun_ch wrote: post #81
dark-star wrote: post #43

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You probably won't even have to validate then. I guess they can safely assume that you didn't create your account when you were 7 years or younger. They said they expect 80% of users or so to be auto-verified by some other means (account age, typing statistics, whatever)

Unfortunately I wouldn’t be so sure that there aren’t any 7 year old Discord users

7 year olds with a credit card?

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by Eisenstein »

Barrin92 wrote: post #192
areoform wrote: post #176

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Universalising any group is dangerous, but this isn't true for even the least informed young people I know. They grew up being watched. They know what these data harvesting operations are and how dangerous this is. They've got front row seats to the dystopia. The difference is that they can't / couldn't do anything about it. They think the world is broken and that you broke it. They're pissed off. And powerless. Not…

sorry but the source for the wave of discontent is... a new york times op-ed on kids with flip phones? How many of them are there? I think universalizing is appropriate because unlike previous generations there isn't even a meaningful counter-culture. Even the luddites in all likelihood get more traction as a story on Instagram than the actual thing, where do you think they go to get their cottage core fix? I haven't…

If they are removing themselves from the places you would normally look for people, how do you plan to find them? Why would they go anywhere you are going? They don't want to hang out with angry middle aged guys.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by ChocolateGod »

latexr wrote: post #305
stubish wrote: post #296

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Sites need to deal with Australia, which punted all responsibility to the platforms and provided no real assistance (like say the government half of the eID system that manages all the keys and metadata)

> Sites need to deal with Australia Do they? The UK’s population is more than double of Australia’s and some websites (e.g. imgur) are outright blocking the UK.

imgur blocking the UK is not due to ID verification, but because they refused to stop making money off childrens data.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by throwaway_53123 »

joe_mamba wrote: post #274
pests wrote: post #235

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> the thought of requiring others to show their faces never occurred to me at all I know you meant as a service provider, but as a avid IRC (and an online game that conventionally alt-tabbed into a irc-like chat window) chatter as a young preteen in the 90s and 00s, I made a lot of online friends that I would not discover what they looked like IRL for decades, some never. People I was gaming with in the 90s, for the…

>as a young preteen in the 90s and 00s, I made a lot of online friends As another 90s preteen, sure, but the internet today has a lot more pedos and groomers online than in the 90s, and preteens today easily share footage of themselves to those adult weirdos, which didn't happen in the 90s because mostly limitations of technology. BUt if you look at tiktok live it's full of preteen girls dancing, and creepy old men d…

> As another 90s preteen, sure, but the internet today has a lot more pedos and groomers online than in the 90s

There were not fewer pedos and groomers online in the 90s, you were just lucky to have avoided it.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by Starlevel004 »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #313

Worth noting when you open up the developer tools console in discord (facebook and some other sites do it too), you get a regular message printed with "If someone told you to copy/paste something here, there’s an 11/10 chance you’re being scammed." and then "Pasting anything in here could give attackers access to your Discord account." in bold+red text. It used to also mention "free nitro" as an example of a scam you…

> I've heard, but haven't confirmed, they also detect you opening developer tools using various methods and remove your auth keys from localstorage while you have it open to make account takeovers harder. (but not impossible)

You can open the network tab, click an API requesst, and copy the token from the Authorization header.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by Orphis »

adjfasn47573 wrote: post #293
jfaganel99 wrote: post #282

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You forgot one (the sane one, which is coming soon anyway): Using a government issued eID system. The EU is going to rollout eID in a way that a site can just ask “is this person > age xy?”. The answer is cryptographically secure in the sense that this person really is this age, but no other information about you has to be known by the site owner. Which is the actual correct way to do it. I don’t understand why all t…

There are also alternatives that can be good enough, such as the Swedish BankId system, which is managed by a private company owned by many banks. They provide authentication and a chain of trust for the great majority of the population on about all websites (government, healthcare, banking and other commercial services) and is also used to validate online payments (3D Secure will launch the BankId app).

While it's not without faults (services do not always support alternative authentication which may support foreigners having the right to live in the country), it has been quite reliable for so many years.

So just to say, you can have successful alternatives to a government controlled system as many actors may decide it is quite valuable to develop and maintain such a system and that it aligns with their interest, and then have it become a de-facto standard.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Post by pjc50 »

PostOnce wrote: post #321
luke727 wrote: post #276

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The frustration aimed at Discord et al is largely misplaced. I'm sure these companies don't mind gathering extra data about their users, but the primary impetus for age verification is government legislation. Moving to alternative platforms is not a long term solution because it's attacking the problem from the wrong direction.

You act like public opinion has no bearing on politics. Historical precedent: prohibition. Alternate future: the big websites start losing billions because people just use the internet less or not at all because it's a hassle with no return, and tax revenue drops. Then the politicians start to worry. Even in the absence of democracy, public opinion affects politics.

The problem is that public opinion is now very much in favor in general. https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/britons-back-online-safety-acts-...
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