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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by wolvoleo »

pjmlp wrote: post #136
wolvoleo wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed it's not: https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/01/09/is-microsoft-losing... And: https://www.perspectives.plus/p/microsoft-365-copilot-commer... Tldr: Copilot has 1% marketshare among web chatbots and 1.85% of paid M365 users bought a subscription to it. As much as I think AI is overrated already, Copilot is pretty much the worst performing one out there from the big tech companies. Despite all the Copilot butto…

Yeah, my problem the way it has been pushed is that how it doesn't make sense at all. Improve the workflows that would benefit "AI" algorithms, image recognition, voice control, hand writing, code completion, and so on. No need to put buttons to chat windows all over the place.

Yeah but it's the mainstream public that was just blown away with the LLM party trick. If it sounds like a human it must be smart like a human. So that's what everyone wants to sell :(

PS: When I say party trick I don't deny it has its uses but it's currently used like the jesus-AI that can do anything.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by estimator7292 »

throw20251220 wrote: post #253
Tempest1981 wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I pair it with my Zune?

yes, directly through the Windows Phone using a Silverlight 1.0-enabled appliance

Seeing the name Silverlight in the wild did untold psychic damage. Excuse me while I crumble to dust.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by pradeeproark »

pixl97 wrote: post #134
kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

Are we talking about .NET standard?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] »

superfrank wrote: post #310

I feel like I must be missing something, but I just cannot understand the hype around Claude Code. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully bought in on using AI for development and am super happy to use Copilot or Cursor, but as an experienced developer just chatting with the terminal feels so wrong. I've tried it so many times to switch and I can't get into it. Can anyone else share what their workflow with CC looks like? Eve…

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by phkahler »

anonymars wrote: post #284
anal_reactor wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm "I don't know what Xbox is" years old.

Do you mean Xbox One? Or Xbox One X? Or Xbox Series X? Or maybe Xbox Series S? Seriously, how?

Don't forget Xbox 360, which precluded everything 365.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by superfrank »

theflyinghorse wrote: post #322
superfrank wrote: post #310

I feel like I must be missing something, but I just cannot understand the hype around Claude Code. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully bought in on using AI for development and am super happy to use Copilot or Cursor, but as an experienced developer just chatting with the terminal feels so wrong. I've tried it so many times to switch and I can't get into it. Can anyone else share what their workflow with CC looks like? Eve…

Workflow is this: - I have emacs open for code editing/reviews/git. - Separate terminal emulator with 1-3 claudes - I work on a story by splitting it into small steps ("Let's move this email logic to the email.service.ts", "here's the fields I'd need to add to the request, create a schema validation in a separate file, and update the router and controller") - I mostly watch claude, and occasionally walk through the c…

> I work on a story by splitting it into small steps

It's funny because that's basically the approach I take in GH Copilot. I first work with it to create a plan broken up into small steps and save that to an md file and then I have it go one step at a time reviewing the changes as it goes or just when it's done.

I understand that you're using emacs to keep an eye on the code as it goes, so maybe what I wasn't groking was that people were using terminal based code editors to see the changes it was making. I assumed most people were just letting it do it s thing and then trying to review everything at the end, but felt like an anti-pattern given how much we (dev community) push for small PRs over gigantic 5k line PRs.

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Post by hightrix »

marssaxman wrote: post #294
kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

> Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. They really won't, though; Microsoft just does this kind of thing, over and over and over. Before everything was named "365", it was all "One", before that it was "Live"... 20 years ago, everything was called ".NET" whether it had anything to do with the Internet or not. Back in the '90s they went crazy for a while calling everything "Active…

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by 1899-12-30 »

theflyinghorse wrote: post #322
superfrank wrote: post #310

I feel like I must be missing something, but I just cannot understand the hype around Claude Code. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully bought in on using AI for development and am super happy to use Copilot or Cursor, but as an experienced developer just chatting with the terminal feels so wrong. I've tried it so many times to switch and I can't get into it. Can anyone else share what their workflow with CC looks like? Eve…

Workflow is this: - I have emacs open for code editing/reviews/git. - Separate terminal emulator with 1-3 claudes - I work on a story by splitting it into small steps ("Let's move this email logic to the email.service.ts", "here's the fields I'd need to add to the request, create a schema validation in a separate file, and update the router and controller") - I mostly watch claude, and occasionally walk through the c…

have you tried the emacs package agent-shell?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by paxys »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #295
paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

This comment is a bit confusing and surprising to me because I tried Antigravity three weeks ago and it was very undercooked. Claude was actually able to identify bugs and get the bigger picture of the project, while Gemini 3 with Antigravity often kept focusing on unimportant details. My default everyday model is still Gemimi 3 in AI Studio, even for programming related problems. But for agentic work Antigravity fel…

Ask it to verify stuff in the browser. It can open a special Chrome instance, browse URLs, click and scroll around, inspect the DOM, and generally do whatever it takes to verify that the problem is actually solved, or it will go back and iterate more. That feedback loop IMO makes it very powerful for client-side or client-server development.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by wahnfrieden »

falloutx wrote: post #259
wahnfrieden wrote: post #245

Reading about ubiquitous Claude Code use inside of Apple and Microsoft, and not Codex, makes me very worried about forthcoming software quality. Claude Code is fun, full of personality, many features to hack around model shortcomings, and very quick, but it should not be let anywhere near serious coding work. That's also why OpenClaw uses Claude for personality, but its author (@steipete) disallows any contribution t…

I dont know about Apple, but Microsoft is completely consumed by this new AI coding wave. Apple probably still has some reasonable use policy, but microsoft has lost it entirely. I dont see myself using any microsoft software anytime soon.

Apple is all Claude Code internally

(Also a signal for why devs should not bother with their shoddy Xcode AI work - Apple devs are not using it)

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