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Not trained on pro, distilled from it.
What do you think distilled means...?
It's good to keep the language clear, because you could pretrain/sft on outputs (as many labs do), which is not the same thing.
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#332To those saying "OpenAI is toast" ChatGPT still has 81% market share as of this very moment, vs Gemini's ~2%, and arguably still provides the best UX and branding. Everyone and their grandma knows "ChatGPT", who outside developers' bubble has even heard of Gemini Flash? Yea I don't think that dynamic is switching any time soon.
They won't switch "to Gemini". They will switch "to Google", meaning whatever's integrated into Chrome and Android.
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#333I so want to like Gemini. I so want to like Google, but beyond their history of shuttering products they also tend to have a bent towards censorship (as most directly seen with Youtube)
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I'm a significant genAI skeptic. I periodically ask them questions about topics that are subtle or tricky, and somewhat niche, that I know a lot about, and find that they frequently provide extremely bad answers. There have been improvements on some topics, but there's one benchmark question that I have that just about every model I've tried has completely gotten wrong. Tried it on LMArena recently, got a comparison…
I don't think tricky niche knowledge is the sweet spot for genai and it likely won't be for some time. Instead, it's a great replacement for rote tasks where a less than perfect performance is good enough. Transcription, ocr, boilerplate code generation, etc.
Second this.
Basically making sense of unstructured data is super cool. I can get 20 people to write an answer the way they feel like it and model can convert it to structured data - something I would have to spend time on, or I would have to make form with mandatory fields that annoy audience.
I am already building useful tools with the help of models. Asking tricky or trivia questions is fun and games. There are much more interesting ways to use AI.
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#335I don't want to say OpenAI is toast for general chat AI, but it sure looks like they are toast.
I’ve fully switched over to Gemini now. It seems significantly more useful, and is less of an automatic glaze machine that just restates your question and how smart you are for asking it.
How do I get Gemini to be more proactive in finding/double-checking itself against new world information and doing searches?
For that reason I still find chatgpt way better for me, many things I ask it first goes off to do online research and has up to date information - which is surprising as you would expect Google to be way better at this. For example, was asking Gemini 3 Pro recently about how to do something with a “RTX 6000 Blackwell 96GB” card, and it told me this card doesn’t exist and that I probably meant the rtx 6000 ada… Or just today I asked about something on macOS 26.2, and it told me to be cautious as it’s a beta release (it’s not). Whereas with chatgpt I trust the final output more since it very often goes to find live sources and info.
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I struggle to see the incentive to do this, I have similar thoughts for locally run models. It's only use case I can imagine is small jobs at scale perhaps something like auto complete integrated into your deployed application, or for extreme privacy, honouring NDA's etc. Otherwise, if it's a short prompt or answer, SOTA (state of the art) model will be cheap anyway and id it's a long prompt/answer, it's way more lik…
"or for extreme privacy" Or for any privacy/IP protection at all? There is zero privacy, when using cloud based LLM models.
Really only if you are paranoid. It's incredibly unlikely that the labs are lying about not training on your data for the API plans that offer it. Breaking trust with outright lies would be catastrophic to any lab right now. Enterprise demands privacy, and the labs will be happy to accommodate (for the extra cost, of course).
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a significant genAI skeptic. I periodically ask them questions about topics that are subtle or tricky, and somewhat niche, that I know a lot about, and find that they frequently provide extremely bad answers. There have been improvements on some topics, but there's one benchmark question that I have that just about every model I've tried has completely gotten wrong. Tried it on LMArena recently, got a comparison…
Even the most magical wonderful auto-hammer is gonna be bad at driving in screws. And, in this analogy I can't fault you because there are people trying to sell this hammer as a screwdriver. My opinion is that it's important to not lose sight of the places where it is useful because of the places where it isn't.
Funny, I grew up using what's called a "hand impact screwdriver"... turns out a hammer can be used to drive in screws!
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> Pretty much every person in the first (and second) world is using AI now This sounds like you live in a huge echo chamber. :-(
Depends what you count as AI (just googling makes you use the LLM summary), but also my mother who is really not tech affine loved what google lense can do, after I showed her. Apart from my very old grandmothers, I don't know anyone not using AI.
How many people do you know? Do you talk to your local shop keeper? Or the clerk at the gas station? How are they using AI? I'm a pretty techy person with a lot of tech friends, and I know more people not using AI (on purpose, or lack of knowledge) then do.
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#339I'll take the hit to my 401k for this to all just go away. The comments here sound ridiculous.
What do you mean?
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> OpenAI's brand recognition shines. We've seen this movie before. Snapchat was the darling. Infact, it invented the entire category and was dominating the format for years. Then it ran out of time. Now very few people use Snapchat, and it has been reduced to a footnote in history. If you think I'm exaggerating, that just proves my point.
Not a great example: Snapchat made it through the slump, successfully captured the next generation of teenagers, and now has around 500M DAUs.
You might not remember, but Snapchat was once supposed to take on Facebook. The founder was so cocky that they declined being bought by Facebook because they thought they could be bigger.
I never said Snapchat is dead. It still lives on, but it is a shell of the past. They had no moat, and the competitors caught up (Instagram, Whatsapp and even LinkedIn copied Snapchat with stories .. and rest is history)