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Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon
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According to Hezbollah sources 1500 of their terrorists were taken out of commission due to this attack. Making the death ratio 42/1500 or 3% while if only taking the civilian ratio that's even lower. Even the 12 civilian count is probably higher than reality because it is doubtful that 12 civilians had access to a military clandestine communication device https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hezbollahs-tunnels.…
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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon
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I don't know if it's "legal" or not and by who's laws, but it certainly seems like terrorism to me (i.e. intentionally creating a state of terror). I think if Lebanon found a clever way to assassinate the top 45 military commanders in Israel the same people who are defending this wouldn't be calling it a "Legal act of war".
I don't whether something is terrorism as something that's relevant for whether it's allowed by the laws of war. Instead what we have is IHL, i.e. the Geneva and Hague conventions etc., and if you are targeting military personnel or other targets of military importance, without any extra cruelty or attacks on civilians, what does it matter if it looks like terror-bombing? If it's allowed by IHL but is terrorism by Br…
>IHL is the actual binding thing.
And who enforces that?
When Netanyahu or Putin break that and bomb children and civilian hospitals, can you stop them by waving the IHL in their face?
Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon
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The pager bombs injured and maimed many civilians including children.
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The pager bombs injured and maimed many civilians including children.
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Calling people psychopaths isn't productive.
Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon
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Targeted attacks against military/militia leadership is not terrorism - almost by definition. If it was just random devices exploding, then sure, that could be considered terrorism. But it wasn't random devices, it was communication devices procured by Hezbollah and directly given by Hezbollah to their own members for their own purposes.
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How is communication devices procured by Hezbollah and directly given by Hezbollah to their own members not a directed attack?
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The pager bombs injured and maimed many civilians including children.
Yes that’s why I said minimal AOE and also why I said in a war (keyword - we live in real world and war is a very real thing whether we like it or not) minimizing harm to innocents is key.
The alternative is 10s of thousands of civilians suffering because their leaders drag them into hell with them. We already see how bad that is..
Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/pagers-drones-how-... Here is Hezbollah boasting to Reuters before the pagers attack, about how it moved to using pagers and couriers to counter Israeli intelligence. As you can guess, with the advent of mobile phones in the 2000s, pagers became obsolete in Lebanon
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> Unless you’re a Lebanese doctor?
Where would a Lebanese doctor get an encrypted pager bought by Hezbollah and given to Hezbollah members with the explicit use for communicating with other Hezbollah members?
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The explosions were in fact strong enough that innocent people, including children, died https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device...
That doesn't necessarily mean the blast radius was large. The 9 year old was killed while holding the pager. > Fatima was in the kitchen on Tuesday when a pager on the table began to beep, her aunt said. She picked up the device to bring it to her father and was holding it when it exploded, mangling her face and leaving the room covered in blood, she said. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/lebanon-.…
Oh, I didn't know this. Innocent people were still killed and maimed by shrapnel. The other children aged 11 was killed when his father's pager detonated