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GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by morserer »

eks391 wrote: post #155
agentifysh wrote: post #128

which pixel model is best for grephene? I strongly prefer long battery life. will other phones be supported? why only pixel?

The OS is not very relevant to the Pixel. Compare the Pixels you like that are new (GrapheneOS drops support as models become older flagships, I think for security reasons) and get that one. IIRC, currently only Pixel is allowed, because the bootloader can be opened without rooting the device. https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-support

Unrelated to bootloader or rooting. Pixels are the only phones that adhere to the device requirements that are listed in the FAQ.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by morserer »

nunobrito wrote: post #294
aniviacat wrote: post #115

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I won't be silent to the obvious honeypotting and mob tactics to silence people around here.

Then don't be. Go email the mods.

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by Zak »

iberator wrote: post #282
Zak wrote: post #202

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Be sure to leave them a one-star review, and maybe name them here so others can do the same. Anyone who does that sort of crap deserves at least that tiny bit of punishment for it.

You cant rate it without google play app playstore lol

You can if you have a Google account; Play Store has a web version.

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by throwaway-0001 »

sroussey wrote: post #320
throwaway-0001 wrote: post #244

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Can you expand a bit? They didn’t notice the ssd swapped? Which country? Customs as in sending deliveries or passing a border with a laptop?

A company buys laptops for its employees and they get shipped from outside the US, and before they get delivered nice changes have been made. Any specific individual that is high value will walk into a store and buy from stock.

Ok and buys the laptop with malware? How the customs knows that high value target will buy that specific laptop they swapped the ssd? And what they do exactly? Put malware to steal his data?

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by itissid »

yipbub wrote: post #198
itissid wrote: post #144

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I have been trying to come off of google and cloud by building — quite slowly — my own nas server which has 2 nodes in two geographic regions where I am building certain services like cloud storage and backup, webhosting etc. But I think there are a few key things that need to be community driven to really get rid of this duoply. 0. A privacy first approach would be something like this: `You+App --Read/Write-> f_priv…

I don't understand your syntax: `You+App --Read/Write-> f_private(your_data) Does this mean a server where third parties can send code to run on your data, but cannot respond to them?

It means any 3rd party even the app provider cannot read your data or the output of the function run. They can provide some data/resources like say map tiles, PoI data and a function to run.

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by [deleted] »

pona-a wrote: post #280
treyd wrote: post #180

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This and also cryptography technology was not nearly as sophisticated and easily accessible as it is today, and where it existed it was pretty slow on the hardware of the time.

How much of it is cryptography? The only notable cryptographic locks are just the TPM-backed Widevine and the infamous Play Integrity, both rarely required due to how many older devices that would lock out. There's no crypto, as far as I know, in all the binary blobs in the kernel, yet we still can't re-implement enough of them to even have a true Linux phone without reusing the manufacturer's kernel.

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Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by pstation »

Zak wrote: post #333
iberator wrote: post #282

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You cant rate it without google play app playstore lol

You can if you have a Google account; Play Store has a web version.

Would they even allow you to rate an app that you have never installed?

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by oakhaven »

aaravchen wrote: post #104
nextos wrote: post #45

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FWIW, Jolla just announced a new phone: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder

It was discussed here when it was announced. I believe it was determined the hardware is an ultra-low-budget Aliexpress design that normally retails for ~$100 that they had custom built with a mic cutoff switch added to it (probably the cause of a large portion of the hardware price increase). I dont remember the specifics, but even thr most optimistic were pretty sure it won't get hardware vendor support for even a…

Can you please refer to the source of the Aliexpress design claim?

I looked through https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46162368 and there was nothing like that mentioned.

Re: GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

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Post by lanfeust6 »

rjdj377dhabsn wrote: post #232
JoshTriplett wrote: post #65

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> I'm not knowledgeable enough -- what would it take to escape the Apple/Google duopoly? At this point? Reliable emulation that can run 99% of Android apps, to provide a bridge until the platform is interesting enough for people to develop for it "natively". I think the easiest way to do that would be to run Android in a VM.

> I think the easiest way to do that would be to run Android in a VM. The problem is the critical payment and government ID apps that will never run in an Android VM because they intentionally break without hardware attestation.

Isn't this spoofable with root access?
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