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Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#331

I am impressed by AI. I just don't want to use it. "Look at how realistic this extruded text looks from a distance!" is definitely an achievement. It just doesn't add to my life in any useful way.

>It just doesn't add to my life in any useful way.

Most products don't add value into our lives imo. They are the means by which we get money flowing which is needed to keep the economy alive. Some might argue that they actually subtract from it hence the need for dopaminergic products. The question for the tech CEOs is how to make LLMs reliably dopaminergic in the way Instagram/Tik Tok and the like are.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried using it as a knowledge retrieval mechanism, I. E., in lieu of Google? Because if not, you really should.

I would invite you to read the other comments on this post by people who have tried to use it for that, and found that it makes regular fundamental errors. Most of the time you're better off reading a few responses to a given question (on, say, Stack Overflow) and synthesizing your own understanding out of them, rather than taking one that an AI has synthesized for you.

Who is getting fundamental regular errors? I don’t get any.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#333
I am still puzzled by how you can be a human being in this world and not be impressed by people.

The more we study AI, the more we discover one fundamental truth above an the others: people are really, really, really, really impressive.

A human being still absolutely melts an LLM like a Salvador Dali clock if the challenge is to innovate. In the race between human potential and LLM potential it isn't even close. Not a little close. Not remotely close. About as close as we are to each other compared to how close we each are to the sun.

And yet somehow there's always some fucking moron who apparently never considered this for a fraction of a second and runs around screaming that a fucking program will replace a fucking person

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#334
There is no super smart "AI". An "AI" gives formulaic responses that always follow the same pattern, makes an incredible number of mistakes and claims different things all the time.

The researchers themselves were surprised by the initial public acceptance:

https://www.businessinsider.com/chatgpt-was-inaccurate-borin...

"I will admit, to my slight embarrassment … when we made ChatGPT, I didn't know if it was any good," said Sutskever.

"When you asked it a factual question, it gave you a wrong answer. I thought it was going to be so unimpressive that people would say, 'Why are you doing this? This is so boring!'" he added.

After several weeks of "AI" usage everyone figures out what the researchers knew all along due to their continued exposure.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#335

I am impressed by AI. I just don't want to use it. "Look at how realistic this extruded text looks from a distance!" is definitely an achievement. It just doesn't add to my life in any useful way.

Real question for me is how often do I want to generate a image, video or have a conversation with computer. For me really quite rarely.

And no replacing your customer support with chat bot does not make it better. Just make a damm website with everything I need. Lot less errors, lot simpler for me to do what I want.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

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post #319

I made a comment a long time ago explaining this. Tech enthusiast will judge ai based on what it gets right, we’re interested in what “can” do. Everyone else will judge ai based on where it fails, they are interested in what “problems” it “does” solve. > a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me. They see: A computer software generally unreliable and unable to…

> A computer software generally unreliable and unable to accomplish basic tasks Yeah specifically to your quote: it's very easy to create some images and video. It's very hard to create exactly what you need if you have specific needs. It's almost as if content creation is hard! Well that's because it is. You need to know the client, understand their needs, make the content in line with their other visual language et…

> Where AI comes in is as a helper

This is where things stop translating well to the real world.

Imagine a pocket calculator:

10 + 33 = 44

Clearly incorrect, then someone tells you

“this one is different, it “helps” you, like 44 is in the ballpark. The real work is now the actual answer”

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#337

I am still puzzled by how you can be a human being in this world and not be impressed by people . The more we study AI, the more we discover one fundamental truth above an the others: people are really, really, really, really impressive. A human being still absolutely melts an LLM like a Salvador Dali clock if the challenge is to innovate. In the race between human potential and LLM potential it isn't even close. Not…

Yes people are amazing but they are also tedious, annoying, frustrating, unpredictable and undependable. Finding someone that will flow and synergize with you on a project is like winning the lottery. People love to talk the talk but when it’s time to walk the walk the reality and disappointment sets in. Work with enough people and this painful reality sets in very quickly.

However I don’t want an agentic or “A.I.” operating system.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#338
Windows has basically gone from

a. Click on a directory in my File Explorer and it opens immediately, it always shows the correct headers, sorting on any column is nearly instant (up until somewhere in XP probably)

b. Where I am now in Windows 10 sorting can take forever and because I haven't re-installed in ages it refuses to remember folder views and will constantly change them to whatever it wants

c. In the future saying

- "Winny, open folder ABC and sort it by DEF please"

- "Folder ABC deleted, except for def.txt"

- "NO, I said open it, not delete it! Get it back!"

- "Error, folder isn't recoverable"

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#339
Because people have developed "AI blindness" by now much like they learnt to ignore ad banners 20 years ago and then learned to ignore ANY images on sites when they all got to be AI-generated 2-3 years ago. "AI" is now just a bullshit, meaningless term squeezed in everywhere merely to ask for money for nothing.

This wave of idiocy is going to abate soon. Hopefully.

Re: Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash

#340
Every person I consider smart / intellectually engaged, curious, regardless of the age, profession and affiliation with tech companies is actually deeply impressed by LLMs either by themselves or if they encounter what LLMs can do.

LLM bashers either feel threatened by them (most likely they come from creative professions and don’t want to learn new tools - it took years to learn how to draw and suddenly you have nano-banana - that may sting) or just latch on to the hater bandwagon because hey it’s sooo cooool to bash techies - take it nerds. Or engineers who can’t stand the fact that someone can actually leapfrog 5-6 years they spent adapting to new tools.

LLM is a VERY new tool, it’s not easy to master, it requires a change of mindset (it’s not “press a button get a LED light up” type of experience).

People are just lazy - that’s normal.

People who bring up ethics are actually masquerading their laziness with some holier than though posturing that’s inherently empty. The moment it starts benefit them or LLMs get easy enough for them to use they’ll switch their tune.

Name ONE instance where technological progress has been discarded in favor of “ethics”.

5 years later it will be unethical to NOT use LLMs like it’s unethical to submit handwritten documents so that ppl have to suffer through your handwriting - ethics adapt to people not the other way around, otherwise it’s some religious nut job territory.

Yawn, h8rs gonna h8, progress gonna progress.

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