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2020: every day a new JS framework is announced 2024: every day a new Chrome fork browser is announced 2025: every day a new AI IDE vscode fork is announced

> 2024: every day a new Chrome fork browser is announced

This is still happening. Didn't you see OpenAI's release of Atlas?

Re: Google Antigravity

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45968731 Why can I not authenticate into Google Antigravity? Google Antigravity is currently available for non-Workspace personal Google accounts in approved geographies. Please try using an @gmail.com email address if having challenges with Workspace Google accounts (even if used for personal purposes). https://antigravity.google/docs/faq

Thanks. Actually did use my personal account and got the issue nonetheless.

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Re: Google Antigravity

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> Your new focus is architecting the solution, not implementing every single step. So congratulations, you have been elevated to a manager of agents. I'm not sure many engineers will welcome this "promotion".

Perhaps it's worth posing the question: what sorts of "engineers" might feel threatened by agents? Those doing engineering, or those who spend their careers wading in the shallows? Competent designers with deep comprehension, or, at best, the superficial pedants?

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Re: Google Antigravity

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> Spin up agents to tackle routine tasks that take you out of your flow, such as codebase research, bug fixes, and backlog tasks. The software of the future, where nobody on staff knows how anything is built, no one understands why anything breaks, and cruft multiplies exponentially. But at least we're not taken out of our flow!

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Re: Google Antigravity

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> Spin up agents to tackle routine tasks that take you out of your flow, such as codebase research, bug fixes, and backlog tasks. The software of the future, where nobody on staff knows how anything is built, no one understands why anything breaks, and cruft multiplies exponentially. But at least we're not taken out of our flow!

You can ask agents to identify and remove cruft. You can ask an agent why something is breaking -- to hypothesize potential causes and test them for validity. If you don't understand how something is built, you can ask the agent to give you an overview of the architecture and then dive into whatever part you want to explore more. And it's not like any of your criticisms don't apply to human teams. They also let cruft…

Humans are just better at communicating about their process. They will spend hours talking over architectural decisions, implementation issues, writing technical details in commit messages and issue notes, and in this way they not only debug their decisions but socialize knowledge of both the code and the reasons it came to be that way. Communication and collaboration are the real adaptive skills of our species. To the extent AI can aid in those, it will be useful. To the extent it goes off and does everything in a silo, it will ultimately be ignored - much like many developers who attempt this.

I do think the primary strengths of genai are more in comprehension and troubleshooting than generating code - so far. These activities play into the collaboration and communication narrative. I would not trust an AI to clean up cruft or refactor a codebase unsupervised. Even if it did an excellent job, who would really know?

Re: Google Antigravity

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AIUI the forks are required because Microsoft is gatekeeping functionality used by Copilot from extensions so they can't be used by these agents.

But Microsoft made VSCode lol, I think being able to gatekeep things like that shouldn’t allow a billion dollar company just reuse all of your code instead of making their own IDE

Most of VSCode (yes, most) is a mishmash of other OSS products, including Google Chromium! By that logic VSCode itself shouldn't exist.

Re: Google Antigravity

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Thank you for saying what this entire blog post doesn't. It's actually disrespectful of Google to launch this without even a mention of the fact that it is based on VSCode.

Google is going to win AI and kill all the other market participants. They have the revenues to support all of this. They spent time learning from all the players and can now fast follow into every market. Now they're fast and nimble and are willing to clone other products wholesale, fork VSCode, etc. They're developing all of this, meanwhile Pichai is calling it a "bubble" to put a chill on funding (read: competitio…

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