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Valve is about to win the console generation

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Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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Post by bitmasher9 »

evo_9 wrote: post #58

One other semi-unrecognized advantage Valve has over consoles is their generous return policy. I’ve bought many games on a whim knowing if I don’t jive with it I can safely get a full refund. Contrast that with my Ps5 where my 2 year old managed to smash buttons while I was tied up on a work call and bought COD for $69 bucks… no way to refund it and I’m not a fan of shooters. Basically Fd on that one.

I’ve made dozens of returns without a single issue on Steam.

I made one return on the PS5 in a similar situation, and it was a painful ordeal.

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

jsmailes wrote: post #242

For me, the big killer feature would be if this device is approved for modern media DRM. As much as I'm tired of streaming and its level of control over how I watch TV, it's still a decent part of my media consumption, but any Linux mini-PC I connect to the TV can only do low-resolution streaming from most providers. If the steam machine is approved for high-resolution streaming, it could totally replace the smart TV…

Yes, I think one of the most important things we as consumers can do is flood the zone for companies like Netflix, Disney, and Apple and keep asking about native Steam Machine apps installed directly from the Steam store that support 4k streams.

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Post by b3lvedere »

paride5745 wrote: post #319
bee_rider wrote: post #298

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Probably not, unless they learn to count to three, those series seem to be over. Valve seems to be more of a platform company these days (a very good one, though).

Remember Valve released HL: Alyx to promote their first VR headset. It is not unreasonable to get a pair of titles to promote these two new products. A man can dream, but a new HL for the Steam Machine and a new Portal for the Frame would be great.

It would also be the biggest sales pitch in the universe

"Buy a Steam Machine and get Half Life 3 for free" "Buy a Steam Frame and get Portal 3 for free"

Tech and software support should be absolutely perfect though..

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Post by sim7c00 »

i see a lot of complaints about certain games (windows / kernel-anti-cheat) not working. Consoles have always had exclusive titles. Windows also has them now via this anti-cheat stuff. This changes litterally nothing.

Also, you can even install windows on the box. it's one of its selling points actually... if you really want to...

kernel level anti-cheat is generally not even needed, so perhaps those companies will now consider rolling proper anti-cheat themselves rather than third-party rubbish that no one asked for.

What i also like about this console development is that it might open the door to other smaller players creating consoles in the form of mini-PC with linux and a gaming layer on there. maybe there will be (oem?)partner for valve that make more beefy machines, machines with alternate OSes (windows + skin) etc.

its a different angle that will open up many things hopefully. make it less exclusive market between essentially 3 parties.

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Post by rs186 »

blitzar wrote: post #201
bloqs wrote: post #191

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their biggest fight is this: "what, i cant play COD online? Or Battlefield? or fifa? or Rocket League?... but thats all I play, and it costs more than a ps5? ...whats the point?" These games have gigantic followings that ship hardware year after year. People on hackernews are substantially broader-minded than your average console gamer. On the above basis alone, most of the regular gamers I know will not buy one of t…

"Will it play GTA6, and play it well, whenever that eventually comes out?" That is the bar (in my opinion) today, you have to take your box over to rockstar and spec for that or you are just selling outdated hardware.

I assume people who choose a Steam Machine over PS5 know what they are doing.

On the other hand, people are probably dumber than I think.

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Post by s0l1dsnak3123 »

GardenLetter27 wrote: post #310
whazor wrote: post #210

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I installed NixOS + Jovian on my Steamdeck and it works great as well.

Nix support is built-in to SteamOS already btw, I used that to set up Ship of Harkinian for example.

Could you elaborate? Does steamOS ship the nix binary & mountpoints?

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Post by ethmarks »

walletdrainer wrote: post #176
ethmarks wrote: post #106

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I think that the idea is that if you get enough users on Linux, it seems foolish from the game studio's perspective not to add Linux support to their anticheat.

Not necessarily, the anticheat will end up much easier to defeat on Linux.

It's possible that 'adding Linux support' would take the form of just making the anticheat optional.

Maybe playing with the anticheat enabled makes you immune to being reported for cheating (because they can verify down to the kernel level that you aren't), but you can still play without it (but without the immunity from being reported).

Obviously they wouldn't do this in today's market because there's no incentive to do so, but if a significant portion of gamers moved to Linux, offering a Linux solution might become a reasonable choice for game studios.

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