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Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by scotty79 »

Sabinus wrote: post #307
scotty79 wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course you can. You are an adult. Your actions and perceptions define what kind of a person you are though. If you perceive your 2 year old son as your forced obligation you are a slave and other things as well. And it's by choice.

Couldn't I say that if you perceive fairly-operated, defensive war conscription to be a forced obligation that you are also several pejoratives? By choice.

Of course. You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it is. I'm curious about what particular pejoratives.

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Post by scotty79 »

Sabinus wrote: post #306
naIak wrote: post #151

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I was raised by my family, thank you very much.

What happens to your family when the conqueror from the next country over rolls into town?

My family would be safely in another country ahead of time.

Your enemy is whoever is willing to sacrifice you for their goals, both offensive and defensive. Flags don't matter.

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Post by lan321 »

Sabinus wrote: post #306
naIak wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was raised by my family, thank you very much.

What happens to your family when the conqueror from the next country over rolls into town?

We all collectively move. Unless you have a massive amount of unmovable property to lose, that you're willing to die for, going to get torn to pieces by a drone seems like a stupid idea. Even if I'm the reason we win the war, my mom and dad probably won't be too happy receiving me in an urn with a complimentary food voucher. We can get a new house, No need to die over its bombed remains.

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Post by incomingpain »

gpm wrote: post #61
incomingpain wrote: post #56

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>Real question: Is any serious person advocating Canada abandon the West for China? What's their analysis here? If anyone has an article I can read I would love to do that. In Canada? Oh yes, many serious liberals are advocating ending with usa and becoming an ally with china. About a month ago: https://globalnews.ca/news/11490896/canada-strategic-partner... Which resulted in the USA suspending all trade talks with C…

With the qualification that Canada has absolutely no intention of abandoning the West, merely the US. The intent of the government and people is absolutely to strengthen ties to western Europe, not weaken them.

The liberals are SAYING they'll shift over to the EU and Asia. But you know what, every PM before Carney attempted to increase trade with the EU and Asia. Of course we keep trying, but to think that this trade is just waiting to happen is false. There's no probable scenario where we abandon the USA. Therefore this elbows up strategy was greatly harmful to Canada.

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Post by HighGoldstein »

mikelitoris wrote: post #315
chriselles wrote: post #313

I think some are too focused on recruiting or conscripting citizens for fighting a kinetic conflict. For the Five Eyes(Canada, US, UK, Australia, NZ) that don’t ever need to worry about conventional invasion, it’s far more about national resilience that relates to national defence. How does a nation rapidly adapt to warfare that is occurring beneath the threshold of conventional warfare, and in some cases general pub…

Did you mean $0.02? Or 2¢?

5,995,849.16 m/s

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Post by philipallstar »

ninalanyon wrote: post #53

24 000 reserves out of a population of 40 million seems like a rather small number. Norway has 40 000 in the Home Guard (Heimevernet) rapid reaction force of volunteer part time soldiers and a further 20 000 reserves. All from a population of about 5.5 million.

Canada, like Europe, has had an easy time of it by letting the US taxpayer pay for most of its defence.

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Post by stackedinserter »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #219
stackedinserter wrote: post #212

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Because it's one week "training".

Many NATO countries' healthcare and pensions for retired personnel is included in their NATO spending. Should that also be classified as "fake" because if they're retired or sick, they're not really active anymore?

Dude, you know what I'm talking about. One week of training doesn't make you any good for modern military. You can draft retirement homes with the same success.

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Post by L_226 »

chriselles wrote: post #313

I think some are too focused on recruiting or conscripting citizens for fighting a kinetic conflict. For the Five Eyes(Canada, US, UK, Australia, NZ) that don’t ever need to worry about conventional invasion, it’s far more about national resilience that relates to national defence. How does a nation rapidly adapt to warfare that is occurring beneath the threshold of conventional warfare, and in some cases general pub…

> For the Five Eyes(Canada, US, UK, Australia, NZ) that don’t ever need to worry about conventional invasion

Australia is extremely at risk of conventional invasion, their current independence is a function of alliance to the strongest navy in the Pacific. Without a US that is willing and able to ensure Australia's free access to the surrounding ocean, AU is absolutely unable to deploy enough of their own military to fend of probably even Indonesia, let alone China. The coastline is just far too long, the military assets too few, and the country too depopulated to be able to stop a determined invasion.

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Post by stackedinserter »

dmoy wrote: post #217
stackedinserter wrote: post #203

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How much will you "train with weapons" in one week?

I mean.... enough to make shots on target at about 300-400 yards with a sling, and enough to make shots on target at about 50 yards while standing up. I do competitive bullseye rifle, and I've done some basic marksmanship coaching. That's about what I'd expect for maybe 6-12 hours of total training on a rifle for someone with zero prior experience with guns. The basics of rifles is very, very simple. In competition w…

Shooting from comfortable sitting position at a range != modern combat.

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Post by stackedinserter »

gpm wrote: post #244
stackedinserter wrote: post #214

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It will not raise any cost, these "soldiers" will pose zero threat.

Minimally trained people pose no threat, this is why the US won against the Taliban...

Taliban is "minimally trained people"?
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