Live data from Hacker News

Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

phoronix.com

331–340 of 359 posts

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#331
post #154
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you're saying that this can set my WiFi card in promiscuous mode as if I was running Linux bare metal?

You can in principle use USB passthrough to do that on a USB WiFi card to do that, I believe, but sucks to carry around a USB dongle especially since macs seem to barely have USB ports... I'm happy with my AMD Thinkpad running Linux ...

Only a few nics support promiscuous mode

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#332
post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The screen repair was like $150. I've had framebooks and they broke within 3 years from hardware failures. macbooks going strong a decade+. You can repair framework, you usually don't have to with a mac. Plus, for people who can't repair their own pc, apple's support is better than framework,dell,etc. and please ffs, stop misusing the term "gaslight". someone having a different opinion and experience than you is not…

You had a framework that broke in 3 years. I had a MacBook Pro 15” 2016 with a defective keyboard design that had repeating keystrokes within a year, which wasn’t corrected on the design of the machines until 4 years later. It’s gaslighting because you’re trying to convince us of a different alternate reality than the observed truthful reality, not just a different opinion. You’re trying to tell us that factually non…

I won't address anything else you've said because you keep abusing "gaslighting". I had a different experience and spoke about, others on the thread echoed my experience. Every mac user i've met so far has had similar experiences. I didn't tell you that your experience is wrong or invalid, i simply stated mine. You're abusing this trendy term as a cheat-code to avoid having to make reasonable arguments.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They are effectively like WSL. You mean WSL2. WSL1 was more like Wine than a VM. I am still sour they did away with that approach, I thought it was the coolest thing.

I agree - we could already run Linux VM's on windows anyways. The change in architecture from native Linux on native Windows to just another VM on windows was very disappointing. Sure, they improved FS performance but broke a lot of magical stuff that could be done earlier. FS performance for WSL-1 should have been improved by enhancing the Windows API.

Technically WSL1 is superior, sure, but is that what users want? Seems like users are happily using VMs to run Docker on Mac and many don't even know it is VM underneath. I suppose max compatibility with Linux kernel is more of a desirable behavior, plus the engineering cost of WSL2 is minuscule compared to WSL1, especially once it is done. WSL1 would require continuous reimplementation of complex Linux kernel features as Windows syscalls.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing out one thing that gets lost in a lot of these discussions: the fact that the Linux kernel itself is something that is desirable, especially if you're a power user, sys/networking/etc admin or developer. There are so many big and little things you get for free with the kernel running directly on your hardware that you just don't, and can't, get on macOS or Linux VMs.

It is desirable. a bit off topic: I forgot the login to my Mac M1 and now I can't 'install Linux' on it, due to 'activation lock' - no apple support since I can't remember the phone number or e-mail and got it from e-bay. it worked, installed Mac, but I went full Linux and let it sit for a minute. Apple Support told me in their own words it's bricked. It's mine. I own it. I'd _love_ to play with M1 with my own Linux…

> I forgot the login to my Mac M1 and now I can't 'install Linux' on it, due to 'activation lock' - no apple support since I can't remember the phone number or e-mail and got it from e-bay.

You got locked out of your own Apple account? I don't see how getting it used from eBay matters.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t give anything like an ETA… which was the question.

If you read the rest of the posts above the one I'm replying to I think it's pretty clear this wasn't a serious question. It was asked ironically as in "the rest of the work doesn't matter, they're taking too long to get M5 support out" I'm saying it's an open project and if people want to bitch they're going too slow they are welcome to contribute.

[flagged]

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is wanting to build software sustainably a rug pull? Like seriously, if you get value from orbstack, it's fair to pay them. Otherwise you can still stick to free alternatives like colima which would be CLI only

I think the answers pretty obvious? A product is free. Then it isn’t free. You can argue all day whether it’s ok to do this, and I’d absolutely say it’s fine, even laudable that they’re trying to make a real business where you have to pay for a product. Great for them! But “rug pull” is absolutely still a correct description of what’s happening, because it was free, and now it’s not. Here’s a nice rug, but you have t…

Very strange logic. If we follow your example, going to the dealership and taking a car for a test drive is a rug pull because eventually the car dealer will ask you to pay for the car?

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My daily driver is a 2014 Thinkpad. The only mod compared to stock is that I maxed out the ram. It's been an absolutely amazing machine, especially given that it cost all of $200 second hand (W540). I find it really hard justifying buying hardware that doesn't allow me to do anything that I couldn't do before. Up to 2003 or so I was always chasing the latest and the greatest but now I find that I can do everything I…

I used to have a W540. It was a stunningly useful and practical machine. Fond memories.

It's indestructible too.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#338
post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

Does mlx acceleration work under asahi?

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#339
post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

Frameworks are excellent on nearly every dimension

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

#340
post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

> I'm not really sure what to do.

You might try the UTM.app from the App Store (or build it), disable Qemu and enable Apple Silicon hypervisor, which i explain in the comment below, for very similar context and reason.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45696676

Post reply on HN