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To be fair, for aws that is hobbyist numbers. We (400 people data company) pay 10 times that amount. Let alone big enterprises. We do get discount, but it wont make it cheap.
What kind of hobby do you have where you’re spending $10k/month?
MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
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During an upgrade, I discovered that the console had been removed without any prior notice. MinIO really pissed me off. Over a month ago, I started looking for a MinIO alternative and found RustFS. I've been testing RustFS for over a month now, and the product continues to improve, with the community fixing bugs very quickly. I hope YC will invest in this company.
There is a nice table here https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs?tab=readme-ov-file#rustfs-v... comparing RustFS to MinIO, including a claim about the MinIo support price.
- GarageFS
- OpenStack Swift
- CEPH Object Gateway Rados
- Riak CS
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> half the price of S3 No one other than hobbyists is paying full price on AWS.
How to not pay full price on AWS? We pay $10K+ per month and nobody gives us any discount.
Some services get large discounts, some don’t. Depends on utilization. For 10k you should get a lot.
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#334It's an Open Source project - I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. I'm sure if there is enough demand, someone else who is trustworthy will step up and automate building them. What I'd like to complain about instead is the pricing page on the Min.io webpage - it doesn't list any pricing. Looking at https://cloudian.com/blog/minios-ui-removal-leaves-org…
Minio doesn't have to give non-paying users anything, but the story still applies. Give them the pickle. It costs nothing in the grand scheme of things, and if it does, ask for donations like any open source project would do to cover your costs. But as others have pointed out, Minio is not an open source company, they are a commercial company that has source available.
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#335so what're you folks moving to? spinning up a local minio instance was what I always sprung for when doing local testing of s3 things...
Edit: 9.4k stars. Looks compelling. https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs
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> half the price of S3 No one other than hobbyists is paying full price on AWS.
Maybe someone else somewhere is getting some unbelievably sweet deal but what I've seen from cloud discounting is more in the "single digit percentage" range than "2/3rds off" or something.
Nobody at commercial volume pays list to AWS - everyone gets a discount.
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> If the painter doesn't enjoy painting in public, then they should've picked a quiet spot in nature in the first place. Sure but maybe the changed their mind or just got burned out.
And that's fine too. Someone else may or may not continue their work for the benefit of the community. They can be honest about it, and most people will be understanding and thankful for their work. But that is not what happened in the case of MinIO, and many other projects. They deliberately removed features from the software, and made it more difficult to use. They prioritized working on their commercial product, a…
Someone still can. They can't revoke the AGPL license of previous versions.
>They prioritized working on their commercial product
It's a company, not a non-profit. What else would you expect them to do?
I'm less understanding when a VC backed company does things like this, but many times its just a matter of "we were trying to make money by doing X. X is no longer working, so we're moving to Y".
I've also seen hostile mobs form when very small companies or individuals decide to start charging for things they used to give away for free, so it's not just that they are a VC backed company here.
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OK - I live in a place that's snowy for a lot of the year. I shovel not only my sidewalk but my neighbours' several houses on both sides. People are really happy and grateful. Over the years Mr. Johnson the senior on a fixed pension next door loses mobility and is really appreciative I keep his walk clean. The couple next to him has a new baby and a clear sidewalk helps them load up all the accompanying gear into the…
Actually, in your analogy the reason why you stopped matters a great deal. For example, if you stopped shoveling snow because you are sick/injured, or because you are caring for a family member, nobody would think less of you as a neighbor. It's only if you stopped for a selfish reason that people would negatively judge your neighborliness. So to the extent that the analogy is instructive as to how we should think ab…
This is the tragedy of the commons but not just for a field of grass, instead its for all human altruism. You really need to think about the consequences of this attitude because it doesn't lead where you seem to think it leads. In fact, it leads to exactly the opposite set of human behaviors.
PS The neighbors could easily just contract someone else to do the shoveling in the future and instead of being salty about having to pay, looking at it as how much money they saved in the past.
Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images
#339For others that are surprised by this, it seems that there is a fork of the UI called OpenMaxIO
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How to not pay full price on AWS? We pay $10K+ per month and nobody gives us any discount.
The good discounts start around 100x your spend.