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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by cheema33 »

chrismorgan wrote: post #189
leakycap wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My MacBook M1 Pro w/ 441 cycles started doing a fun thing where if the battery gets under about 50% and you put it to sleep, the ONLY way to power on the device is to use the exact charger it came with. Higher powered Apple Studio Display PD, or even good 3rd party chargers, do not bring it back to life. This occurs even when the battery has 40-60% remaining if the laptop goes to sleep. Had a similar issue with my 20…

My dad had similar trouble with an M1 MacBook Pro that got a depleted battery. Two chargers he had wouldn’t work, but fortunately the Anki charger that I used for my laptop did work with one of the cables that I had (though not another). Once it got a little juice into it, then it was fine and he could switch back to his. But I think he was a bit more careful to avoid total depletion after that. In 2018 I had a phone…

> I learned the lesson that day that allowing devices to deplete completely can be surprisingly hazardous.

The solution is to keep your devices charged. This is feasible if you have a few devices. Not practical for someone like me. I have too many devices. I don't use every device daily.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

AstroBen wrote: post #324
leakycap wrote: post #213

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A NVIDIA 2080 graphics card from 2018 still surpasses the M5 for gaming. The M5 Pro coming early next year will likely finally catch up with the 8-year-old 2080. I'm happy to hear your games work well for you, but it sounds like the games you're playing aren't demanding compared to modern AAA titles. Most games released in the last year or two don't run well on my 2080 test system at anything approaching decent graph…

A reminder that the majority of what people actually play isn't "modern AAA titles": https://steamcharts.com/top

> I'm happy to hear your games work well for you, but it sounds like the games you're playing aren't demanding compared to modern AAA titles.

That's why I made the specific distinction in the comment you're responding to

When a $599 Windows laptop with a 3060 can play AAA titles and your $1599 MBP can't, I wouldn't normally call that great for gaming.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

leakycap wrote: post #193
kmacdough wrote: post #184

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If it's dead or if it's low? In my experience a low-power charger will revive, you just must wait for it to hit enough SOC since it is effectively starting off the battery. This does take a while, but starting dead on a supply that can't guarantee enough power would be dumb.

My M1 Pro with 441 battery cycles won't power back on without the Apple charger it came with if I close the lid or put it to sleep and the battery isn't over 60%... something happens and the computer goes into a sleep state where the battery doesn't drain but no charger except the OG brings it back to life. Even a Studio Display, which can provide more power than my M1 Pro can use, won't wake it from this state. Appl…

>Apple wants $300 for a replacement battery

Looks like iFixit shows thinks it's only a "moderate" difficulty replacement and should only cost you $109

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+14-Inch+2021+Batter...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by kgc »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Try Aerospace. Completely solved window management for me.

Also for dev, set up your desired environment in a native container and then just remote into it with your terminal of choice. (Personally recommend Ghostty with Zellij or Tmux)

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by sofixa »

coldtea wrote: post #92
sofixa wrote: post #64

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Docker works very weirdly (it's a desktop application you have to install that has usage restrictions in enterprise contexts, and it's inside a VM so some things don't work), or you have to use an alternative with similar restrictions (Podman, Rancher Desktop). The OS also has weird rough edges when used from the terminal - there are read-only parts, there are restrictions on loading libraries, multiple utilities com…

> The OS also has weird rough edges when used from the terminal - there are read-only parts, there are restrictions on loading libraries, multiple utilities come with very old versions or BSD versions with different flags than the GNU ones you might be used to coming from Linux, the package manager is pretty terrible. You use nix or brew (or something like MacPorts). And they are mighty fine. You shouldn't be concern…

Brew is pretty terrible though. It's slow, and doesn't handle updates/versions/dependencies all that well.

I've had it make major (with breaking changes) updates to random software when asked to install something unrelated.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by aftergibson »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Hello! Yes! Writing this from my commute home using my companies M3 Pro and I hate it. I'm waiting for a new joiner so I can hand this off to a new starter who has a different brain to me.

I can write up all the details, but it's well covered on a recent linuxmatters.sh and Martin did a good job of explaining what I'm feeling: https://linuxmatters.sh/65/

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by joshstrange »

kondro wrote: post #197

Just give me cellular in a MacBook Air already Apple if you want me to insta-buy! Bonus points for OLED. Air’s don’t have to be just cheap. I want a thin and light premium laptop for walking around and a second Mac (of any type) for my desk.

I've heard (but not tested) that Tahoe and iOS 26 do a _much_ better job of auto-connecting and reconnecting (if your cell drops, like going through a tunnel or similar) to make it easier to use your phone with your MBP.

I hope this is the case. I don't know if I would buy a cellular MBP (just wouldn't use it enough) but better tethering is a huge win for me.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

Noaidi wrote: post #303
leakycap wrote: post #260

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> Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade M1 MacBooks are ~5 years old at this point, and if you've been working a laptop hard for 5 years it's often worth getting an upgrade for battery life as well as speed.

I still have 94% of my battery health left on my 2020 M1, and I have all the speed I need as a casual, avergae user.

Crazy good. I only have 87% on mine and I think I got it in 2022 (M1 though)... I wonder if it's because I leave it plugged in so much.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by Aperocky »

I find it annoying that now I want 2 macbooks, one tuned for local LLMs and the other tuned for light and big screen (Air 15).

I never really used the local LLMs since I can always go to claude but that's always on my irrational brain to spend irresponsibly for that.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #333
leakycap wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My M1 Pro with 441 battery cycles won't power back on without the Apple charger it came with if I close the lid or put it to sleep and the battery isn't over 60%... something happens and the computer goes into a sleep state where the battery doesn't drain but no charger except the OG brings it back to life. Even a Studio Display, which can provide more power than my M1 Pro can use, won't wake it from this state. Appl…

>Apple wants $300 for a replacement battery Looks like iFixit shows thinks it's only a "moderate" difficulty replacement and should only cost you $109 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+14-Inch+2021+Batter...

Replacing a MacBook battery is a lot of delicate work. Not everyone has steady hands, great eyes, etc. For $300, the Apple Store is a better deal for most (and guaranteed to be a quality battery with warranty) compared to the difficulty of a $110 battery kit.

I don't want to use a 3rd party battery in a device I carry with me most places I go...

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