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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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It's still crazy to me that they put an M5 chip in this thing, but to run Mac apps you need a Mac. Just let the face computer be a computer!

Mac apps will expect a full set of Mac hardware (not just the CPU), so you’d probably need to run a full virtual Mac for compatibility. Not impossible, but I expect it’s not a priority either.

It's an SOC. It's in the name.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Do you never entertain guests with your home theater system? I believe you when you say that it could replace the experience for yourself, but, at least for me, hosting with my home theater is the main driver for improving it.

People come over to your house just to watch TV?

Some people care about film and it's a hobby for them, some people don't. I'm sure for the people who care and their groups, it's more than just watching TV.

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There are three problems with AVP: cost, cost and cost. It is priced to be a pack-in with seats of Dassault 3DEXPERIENCE, but Meta's experience has been that the VR consumer is price sensitive which is why they followed up the MQ3 with the cost-reduced MQ3S. I think Apple is looking at this the way they look at AirPods (something you stick in your ears to modify and augment your hearing) which is good and monitors, w…

On top of the three problems of any AR/VR tech: UX, UX and UX. I'm honestly not sure if Apple Vision would fare much better if they had a device that costs $100. Like, sure, they'll sell more units that way. But how many of those units would end up collecting dust?

If the AVP were cheaper, I think you'd have a lot more people willing to use them together. The social features are useless if nobody owns one or wants to use one.

You'd also have more of a critical mass of people with accessories. A used market for lenses and accessories, people with spare batteries about, etc.

Not to mention an app ecosystem. For every person like me lamenting what could be, there are a dozen people with more mainstream desires, like Instagram 3D or Temple Run 3D or whatnot.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I've had the Vision Pro since launch, and the only thing that keeps me coming back to it nearly daily is the Mac Virtual Display for my MacBook Pro. It's just so useful to have a huge display wherever you want it - no hunching over looking down a small laptop screen. This is especially useful on a plane where I'm not even able to open the laptop completely due to the tight space. My main gripe is: Why do I need a sep…

Battery life, probably? I suspect they didn’t want to have functionality that could only realistically be used when plugged in.

Functionally the battery life is already shit. I barely ever use mine untethered to at least an external USB-PD battery.

They might as well have made the plunge.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I've had the Vision Pro since launch, and the only thing that keeps me coming back to it nearly daily is the Mac Virtual Display for my MacBook Pro. It's just so useful to have a huge display wherever you want it - no hunching over looking down a small laptop screen. This is especially useful on a plane where I'm not even able to open the laptop completely due to the tight space. My main gripe is: Why do I need a sep…

The only use case I’m interested in is long-haul flights. How comfortable is it to wear for an extended period? Do people interrupt you to ask you about it? Are you able to use all the features sitting in economy while gesturing?

Most people don’t care, the only weird/funny part is that they assume you can’t see with it on. I’ve never been interrupted and I wore mine on a flight just a few months after it was released.

It’s not comfortable though.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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i want to capture 3d video of loved ones before they’re gone

You want to wear goggles on your face during those moments?

i imagine it would be like the family photo moment when there us some level of staging for posterity.

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i want to capture 3d video of loved ones before they’re gone

I thought you can take spacial photos/videos on iPhone and view it on the Vision Pro later? https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/spatial-photos-record... I don't have either so I don't know how well iPhone vs. natively taken photos/videos compare.

you can but apparently the avp can capture higher fidelity imagery than iphone .

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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i want to capture 3d video of loved ones before they’re gone

If Apple sold an Ouija board you could capture it after they're gone too.

if the avp is too expensive imagine apple ouija! the connection fees alone would be like making an international phone call in the eighties :)

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

I went to an apple store, saw a vision pro and asked if I could try it on. They said you had to schedule an appointment, then they would take you through a supervised viewing or whatever. This gave me the impression it wasn't ready for general use, and they would have to control your impression of the thing while selling you on it. I know that VR is hard, and AR is much harder, but this made me think apple still hasn…

In the country im in, apple official resellers were not allowing to try any of their apple watches on wrist.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

You can in fact already do this (have Mac windows show up as separate floating windows in VisionOS instead of all being on the single MacOS window) using a third party tool called Ensemble: https://github.com/saagarjha/Ensemble This is what is looks like in action: https://twitter.com/TheOriginaliTE/status/175125156764134634... Disclaimer: I don’t know how well it works in practice because I don’t have a Vision Pro.

The point is that this should absolutely be capable of being a power-computing extension for Mac, but instead it’s been relegated to a $3k personal theater that runs apps for some reason
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