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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by j1436go »

zengineer wrote: post #327
darkamaul wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see why you wouldn’t book a flight using an AI assistant. No one’s saying it should do it completely unsupervised (maybe that’ll come much later), but having something that can research the best routes based on my criteria and show me several options — with a single click to purchase the one I find most convenient — is something I’d love. It could even work against the dynamic pricing algorithms airlines use…

I would try using AI to book flights - then double check if I can't get a better offer. Do this a couple of times and when I see AI is as good or even better at getting me flights, then sure, why not use it.

Extrapolating from my experience testing it for coding tasks the result is not reliable even if it was right a couple of times. A risk I'm not willing to take. And I can't say that AI powered chat assistants on web pages have been much help either.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by chernobogdan »

ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277
sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

There's no way I give an AI access to my wallet, every expense he makes should be approved at least.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by workingnbar »

nicewood wrote: post #314
jwpapi wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue a website made to buy you tickets (skyscanner f.e.) is always gonna be a better interface than chat. Right now I cant imagine an AI (esp. chat) being more convenient for me than skyscanner or Google Hotels, but maybe I’m missing the imagination.

It will just iframe whatever page/app you would have been browsing anyway but potentially with ChatGPT directly being able to operate on the App state. So if configured, I guess ChatGPT will be just a handy middle layer to your usual interfaces.

It baffles me that people seem to think that chat is limited to text and text only. We're not there yet but the moment chats get excellent embedded interfaces is when we see this tech really come to fruition - at least from a consumer point of view.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277
sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

It's not a case of wanting to it's a case of going to ChatGPT first instead of going to Google or the iOS App Store.

Currently GPT gets you better answers than Google so people are gonna be going there first.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by whstl »

ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277
sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I feel the same, but Airline and big hotel websites have way too many dark patterns made to confuse the user and force them to pay extra.

Booking an emergency flight last time I had a family issue was a mind-fucking experience. I had to go through 10 screens trying to sell me stuff and constantly hiding the skip button in different places. Maybe HN will say that I "shouldn't have had a family emergency in the first place" but reality is realty.

And honestly it's not just booking websites, it's anything tech that they do. For example, the last checkin kiosk I used also had an incredibly convoluted path for the case where someone else booked my luggage but it was a different size.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by x187463 »

fishpen0 wrote: post #218
drdrey wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

counterpoint: a lot of people around me just type "zillow" in google to access it, so maybe it's not absurd to refer to it by name in a chat interface

Right, but if you just search for "house listings" you find zillow and redfin and other stuff. Becoming the new word for "listings" will tie specific brands to our use of language in very interesting ways. What happens if I register my app to a common word. In this example, can I take "listings" and astroturf my app to the top? Is this a new DNS "buying all the domains" race?

Sam specifically mentioned apps would go through a vetting process before they were auto-suggested by the chat. So, at least in the early days, I would imagine some of the basic shenanigans will be prevented.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by Applejinx »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #334
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

It's not a case of wanting to it's a case of going to ChatGPT first instead of going to Google or the iOS App Store. Currently GPT gets you better answers than Google so people are gonna be going there first.

That says a lot more about what Google has become, than GPT.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by raphman »

whstl wrote: post #335
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I feel the same, but Airline and big hotel websites have way too many dark patterns made to confuse the user and force them to pay extra. Booking an emergency flight last time I had a family issue was a mind-fucking experience. I had to go through 10 screens trying to sell me stuff and constantly hiding the skip button in different places. Maybe HN will say that I "shouldn't have had a family emergency in the first p…

> but Airline and big hotel websites have way too many dark patterns made to confuse the user and force them to pay extra.

And sooner or later these websites will implement new dark patterns to confuse the LLMs...

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by Schiendelman »

whstl wrote: post #335
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I feel the same, but Airline and big hotel websites have way too many dark patterns made to confuse the user and force them to pay extra. Booking an emergency flight last time I had a family issue was a mind-fucking experience. I had to go through 10 screens trying to sell me stuff and constantly hiding the skip button in different places. Maybe HN will say that I "shouldn't have had a family emergency in the first p…

Ah, yeah. I assume from this comment you aren't in either US or EU, the only places this is better. It sucks.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by Schiendelman »

darkamaul wrote: post #304
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I don’t see why you wouldn’t book a flight using an AI assistant. No one’s saying it should do it completely unsupervised (maybe that’ll come much later), but having something that can research the best routes based on my criteria and show me several options — with a single click to purchase the one I find most convenient — is something I’d love. It could even work against the dynamic pricing algorithms airlines use…

I suspect the cost of the AI will end up being more than the difference in flight pricing, but we'll see.
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