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Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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Post by makeitdouble »

paulcole wrote: post #138
makeitdouble wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This reads like it was written by a developer 'who doesn't get marketing'. That's spot on. And it will be a very common sentiment regarding marketing. Many devs don't like "bullshitting", it's the exact opposite of how we're supposed to do our job. And while it's understood marketing has a huge impact on sales, one can still take a healthy distance from it. I think this post is about linkedin moving from a generic…

> Many devs don't like "bullshitting” In my experience they seem to love this but will call it “thinking from first principles” or something else to make sure they don’t sound like (gag) marketing people.

All technical fields sure have their bullshit, wrapped in a layer of something else.

Another one pretty common backing decisions with bullshit or misleading numbers. Like A/B tests that don't cover the whole behavior spectrum or metrics that don't match the point we're making but sound close enough.

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Post by darth_avocado »

bluedino wrote: post #262

LinkedIn is decent for jobs/searching/applying. That's all I really find it useful for. Things I don't find it useful for: Salespeople trying to sell me some enterprise product when I don't have anything to do with selection/purchasing those items. Everything from IP phones to enterprise storage to whatever SaSS is hot Low-effort recruiter spam. Jobs I'm not interested in, qualified for, over-qualified for, want me t…

As a general rule, if you’re an engineering candidate that made a profile years ago and is missing updates and haven’t put in much description about your work experience beyond “I worked here from this date to that date”, you’re probably a good engineer.

That’s how I find LinkedIn useful.

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Post by janalsncm »

I see zero value in the LinkedIn feed. That’s ok, just ignore it. In the groups I’ve joined (naively thinking I’d learn something useful) it’s mostly infographics explaining things I already know or engagement bait “polls”.

I update my job when necessary, and from time to time a recruiter sends me a decent job posting.

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Post by internetter »

monkeyelite wrote: post #329
glitchcrab wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A really good way of weeding out the recruiter spam is to change your first name to an emoji (I use the waving hand) and then put first name and last name in the last name field. That way when a DM opens with 'hello %waving hand emoji%' you know it's just scripted bulk crap.

Is it bad to use automation?

Yes. If I want a job without a prior relationship there’s plenty of sites for that like indeed. I’m only interested in job offers from people who have read and valued my work.

Edit: and clearly this is the case because it’s not “Google bot”, it’s a robot pretending to be human like “Amy Bushwack from google” but really it’s a bot

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Post by joshdavham »

modeless wrote: post #275
joshdavham wrote: post #239

If you find reading posts on LinkedIn as annoying as I do, there’s actually a nice solution that will literally wipe your feed blank: 1) Change your preferred feed view to “Most Recent Posts” : https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/preferred-... 2) Unfollow all of your connections. You’ll stay connected but won’t see their annoying posts anymore. …and there you have it! Focused peace and zen on an otherwi…

Or just don't visit your feed?

I was using LinkedIn a couple months ago to look for jobs and the problem was that the feed was really hard to avoid and kept sucking me into wasting my time.

When I did the above two things, it completely nerfed my feed so that I could just focus on jobs.

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Post by ethbr1 »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #321
bluedino wrote: post #262

LinkedIn is decent for jobs/searching/applying. That's all I really find it useful for. Things I don't find it useful for: Salespeople trying to sell me some enterprise product when I don't have anything to do with selection/purchasing those items. Everything from IP phones to enterprise storage to whatever SaSS is hot Low-effort recruiter spam. Jobs I'm not interested in, qualified for, over-qualified for, want me t…

The sad part is, a quick algorithm tweak would probably fix this, but I doubt they're interested in making any changes - Why would they, when LinkedIn is already the winner of the winner-take-all "business social media" market. Sure, they might make user experience better, but that doesn't increase their bottom line.

I think I heard about something similar happening in the web search market too...

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Post by 0x0000000 »

joshdavham wrote: post #239

If you find reading posts on LinkedIn as annoying as I do, there’s actually a nice solution that will literally wipe your feed blank: 1) Change your preferred feed view to “Most Recent Posts” : https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/preferred-... 2) Unfollow all of your connections. You’ll stay connected but won’t see their annoying posts anymore. …and there you have it! Focused peace and zen on an otherwi…

> Unfollow all of your connections

I hate that this is the only option available. I want to follow my connections, for their own posts, if any. What I don't want is to see everything they like, share, and comment on -- but LinkedIn won't let you turn that part off.

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Post by terminalshort »

alansammarone wrote: post #175
terminalshort wrote: post #113

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If nobody knows about your product, nobody will buy it. If nobody buys it, you haven't created any value.

Same reply as I wrote above: No. People do need to know about your product. What appears to be a (_very_ sad and at the same time telling about the human condition) fact is that business people ("decision makers") apparently can't spot blatant, extremely low quality and low effort, marketing-driven snake-oil, laughingly ignore it, and do a 5 minutes google search to find something better by themselves, perhaps with t…

Why would someone who isn't an engineer look at Github? That gives them no information about the quality of the product.

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Post by alansammarone »

terminalshort wrote: post #339
alansammarone wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reply as I wrote above: No. People do need to know about your product. What appears to be a (_very_ sad and at the same time telling about the human condition) fact is that business people ("decision makers") apparently can't spot blatant, extremely low quality and low effort, marketing-driven snake-oil, laughingly ignore it, and do a 5 minutes google search to find something better by themselves, perhaps with t…

Why would someone who isn't an engineer look at Github? That gives them no information about the quality of the product.

It literally contains as much information as anybody could potentially hope for (public information anyhow - excluding interviews and the like). If they happen not to be able to distinguish between a “page does not exist” (90%~ of cases IME, ie no GH account), or their ego is so inflated that they cant be bothered to spend 2mins asking their CTO (or dont even have one or trust them), thats a different story and its on them. The signal is there.
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