Looking forward to 13! Debian 12 in combination with Pipewire is my go to daily use professional audio workstation for 2 years. Coming from Windows, there are no more forced updates anymore preventing me from doing my job. This is a releave. It works so good! Linux for professional audio is really an option now! Most high-end converters are connected via MADI or ADAT anyway, so there is no driver problem existent. Drivers are a consumer grade discussion..
Debian 13 “Trixie”
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Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#332You can still use sysvinit, I've already tested servers and desktop builds. From my build box: chroot $MOUNTPOINT/ /bin/bash -c "http_proxy=$aptproxy apt-get -y --purge --allow remove-essential install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils systemd-sysv- systemd-" There is a weird depends you cannot get around without simultaneously removing and installing in parallel. A Debian bug highlighted the above, with a "-" for systemd…
Why would you want to do this?
To avoid systemd, presumably. Although one could also just switch to Devuan at that point.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
I too had no idea what he’s talking about, so I did some digging. So, an open-source contributor who works for Canonical on Ubuntu gave a talk at Debconf. He is a convicted and admitted sexual predator who served time in prison for his crimes. This all is pretty well-documented. But… then what? He did the time for his crimes. He’s on the national sex offender registry. What now? Should he be unemployable? Should his…
He was also a minor when the convicted offences took place. Important point because Lunduke acolytes always go everywhere & make it sound as if he was a grown man who molested children "thousands of times". Apparently what is closer to the facts is that he was himself a minor when he started SA his siblings, which was ignored by their parents. He was convicted later in life as an adult & as noted, served his time.
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Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#334I see that systemd is still doing this thing where they are trying to strong-arm all Linux distros into arbitrary stuff that someone decided is the only right way to do something: > 5.2.2. systemd message: System is tainted: unmerged-bin systemd upstream, since version 256, considers systems having separate /usr/bin and /usr/sbin directories noteworthy. At startup systemd emits a message to record this fact: System…
Debian choosing systemd (not that it's a new decision) is the reason I'll be switching my Proxmox to FreeBSD/bhyve (FreeBSD has great ZFS support btw). Once I get the hypervisor systemd-free (no systemd on FreeBSD), I can then install a minimal distro in a VM mean to do containerization (like, say, the Talos Linux distro for K8s, that only has a few executables and they're all immutable) and then I can run containers…
> Debian choosing systemd (not that it's a new decision) is the reason I'll be switching my Proxmox to FreeBSD/bhyve
Did you consider Devuan? Or is this just taking one annoyance as motivation to fix others at the same time?
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#335> The overall disk usage for trixie is 403,854,660 kB (403 GB), and is made up of 1,463,291,186 lines of code.
This makes Debian Trixie about 32 times larger than Windows XP with approximately 45 millions lines of code, arguably the best Windows OS ever.
Debian Trixie is released about 24 years after Windows XP.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
One sits in my bathroom so I can browse random Wikipedia articles while I'm, uh, busy. The other one sits on my nightstand and plays audiobooks/podcasts when I'm going to sleep. So nothing critical. But something they are still good at, and being very small makes them a natural fit for these use cases.
Curious, why not use your phone for both these use cases? Seems like it would be even more convenient
I can't speak for the other poster, but I like the idea a lot. Having tools with specific purposes means I can avoid using my phone for everything. No matter what games I play to remove notifications/interruptions/etc. it's always a distraction and easy to be distracted from whatever I originally intended to use the phone for.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#337> The overall disk usage for trixie is 403,854,660 kB (403 GB), and is made up of 1,463,291,186 lines of code. This makes Debian Trixie about 32 times larger than Windows XP with approximately 45 millions lines of code, arguably the best Windows OS ever. Debian Trixie is released about 24 years after Windows XP.
Sure, but XP came with minimal amounts of bundled software, that's every package in the debian repo.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also watch out for surprise file deletes in /tmp and /var/tmp at 10 and 30 days. This too can be turned off.
I can’t fathom why anyone would be surprised that a directory named “tmp” is ephemeral.
Then I think you just don't have much imagination. I have recovered files in /tmp after turning off a machine by booting it back up in single-user mode and accessing the data before it would be cleared in during bootup. Given that "turning off a machine" can also mean "the machine lost power", I can definitely see why people would be surprised by this change.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#339> i386 is no longer supported as a regular architecture: there is no official kernel and no Debian installer for i386 systems. The i386 architecture is now only intended to be used on a 64-bit (amd64) CPU. Users running i386 systems should not upgrade to trixie. Instead, Debian recommends either reinstalling them as amd64, where possible, or retiring the hardware. Impressive that i386 support made it all the way to A…
OpenBSD requires at least a Pentium these days.
Yep! I did some testing and found 6.8 was the final version to support 486 CPUs. The reason is the OpenBSD project switched to clang for the compiler in 6.9, and in the process became dependent on Pentium instructions.
However, that doesn't stop one from installing a Pentium Overdrive in an old Socket 3 board and running the latest release. ;)
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#340> i386 is no longer supported as a regular architecture: there is no official kernel and no Debian installer for i386 systems. The i386 architecture is now only intended to be used on a 64-bit (amd64) CPU. Users running i386 systems should not upgrade to trixie. Instead, Debian recommends either reinstalling them as amd64, where possible, or retiring the hardware. Impressive that i386 support made it all the way to A…
Man, I thought I was behind using a P3 in like 2007 lol. You can get something 100x faster for $1 :D
Hahah yeah, it's just a for fun/hobby PC. It's pretty beefy for what it is - 1.3GHz, 512MB RAM, 512GB SSD on a SATA card, fast AGP card. I can run a Debian desktop at 1080p on here.