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‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Bunch of racist Israeli hooligans that were thrown into the Amsterdam Canals got more outrage from the international media and diplomats than a livestreamed cold blooded murder by a terrorist. This is everything you need to know about the world we live in. Palestinian lives simply do not matter.

In London there are pretty much daily pro Palestinian protests, not much for the other side.

not sure what would other side protest for? faster genocide?

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One day, everyone will have always been against this.

Only if israel loses in the end. There were tons of pro-germany collaborators during ww2 right up until germany lost.

And if Israel wins and ethnically cleanses Gaza: Sadly, there was nothing we could have done to stop it.

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Bunch of racist Israeli hooligans that were thrown into the Amsterdam Canals got more outrage from the international media and diplomats than a livestreamed cold blooded murder by a terrorist. This is everything you need to know about the world we live in. Palestinian lives simply do not matter.

Tell me, where are Jews supposed to go if not to their historic homeland? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Mu... > Today, Jews residing in Muslim countries have been reduced to a small fraction of their former sizes, with Iran and Turkey being home to the largest remaining Jewish populations, followed by Morocco, Tunisia, Lebanon, Yemen, Algeria, Syria, Pakistan and Iraq. This was due to Zion…

Judging by the British Raj, choosing to inhabit a former British colony probably wasn't a super informed decision. If you attended history class, you know what happened the moment Britian left.

Violence begets violence, if Israeli settlers want to fight to displace other people then they will die in that process. Thankfully for Jews, there are other states they can choose to inhabit that are both secular and respect international law. These are, statistically, safer places for Jewish individuals to live than a state that instructs their army on how to commit fratricide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive

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In ideal world international peacekeeping forces would be deployed in Gaza. The peace and two state solution could only be enforced by imposing severe sanctions on Israel including possibility of aerial NATO strikes like in the former Yugoslavia.

> international peacekeeping forces To the extent there is consensus among today’s superpower and regional powers, it’s that international peacekeepers don’t work. At best they delay while incubating a conflict.

Actually, there are studies that show (by looking at past conflicts) that peacekeeping does work.

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post #271

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In London there are pretty much daily pro Palestinian protests, not much for the other side.

Why would the other side need to protest?

I saw some protests by the other side saying they'd like their hostages back.

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Deuteronomy 9:4 > After the Lord your God has driven them out before you, do not say to yourself, “The Lord has brought me here to take possession of this land because of my righteousness.” No, it is on account of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord is going to drive them out before you. I think there is a common belief that Israel was "given" the land beyond the Jordan because they were God's chosen people…

Keep in mind this was written by man. People are being murdered thousands of years later because of the ancient Judea equivalent of 'Harry Potter', and the batshit insane people who still believe it in earnest.

Being dismissive of the Bible is not as cool as you think it is: those who do not study the Bible are doomed to repeat it.

I understand the instinct to treat Bronze‑Age literature like fanciful fiction: engineers are wired to put "myth" in one bucket and "hard data" in another. But for better or worse, the Bible isn't just an ancient novel. It's the source code for a huge fraction of the world's legal systems, ethics, holidays, and political claims, including the one we are discussing. Dismissing it as "Harry Potter" misses the point:

If we're serious about reducing violence, we need to debug the real code people are running in their heads, not the straw‑man version.

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Isreal proposed international peacekeeping forces in Gaza, but Hamas has rejected it. If I may quote Izzat al-Rishq, a member of the Hamas political bureau, "We stress our people's rejection of the presence of any non-Palestinian actors on our land." [ https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2024/04/02/hamas-says-no-to-i... ]. They only accept aid organizations.

>Isreal proposed international peacekeeping forces in Gaza This is a bit misleading. Israel proposed that it maintain absolute and total military control of Gaza, but that a "peacekeeping force" from three Arab nations, bizarrely to be controlled by the US, would "secure food distribution". Israel has absolutely zero intention of handing over control of Gaza, and has gone to extraordinary lengths to vilify and delegi…

> Israel has absolutely zero intention of handing over control of Gaza,

The charter for Hamas for years called for the total destruction of Israel. That's been recently removed, but their actions haven't changed.

Why would any nation allow such a government to be their neighbor? The best that anyone could hope for would be a North / South Korea or CCP/KMT divide, but those only work because both sides share a common identity.

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post #87

In ideal world international peacekeeping forces would be deployed in Gaza. The peace and two state solution could only be enforced by imposing severe sanctions on Israel including possibility of aerial NATO strikes like in the former Yugoslavia.

Like the peacekeeping troops sent into South Lebanon after UNSC Resolution 1701? Oh, you didn't know about that one? Maybe there's a reason Israel does not trust diplomacy anymore.

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Can someone living in Israel help me understand what is going on right now? What does the political climate look like in Israel? Do majority of people support what is happening, if so why? if not, how is the government executing this? Further, has this had any impact on the overall relationship between Jewish people worldwide and those residing in Israel? if so, how? I know that the media is all over the place and it…

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