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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by ericb »

_ryanjsalva wrote: post #57
elashri wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, Thanks for this work. currently it seems these are the CLI tools available. Is it possible to extend or actually disable some of these tools (for various reasons)? > Available Gemini CLI tools: - ReadFolder - ReadFile - SearchText - FindFiles - Edit - WriteFile - WebFetch - ReadManyFiles - Shell - Save Memory - GoogleSearch

I also work on the product. You can extend the tools with MCP. https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/main/docs/t...

Feedback: A command to add MCP servers like claude code offers would be handy.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by oc1 »

Aeolun wrote: post #242

How am I supposed to use this when actually working on a cli? The sign in doesn’t display s link I can open. Presumably it’s trying and failing to open firefox?

one would expect that google engineers would know that a cli tool should have code flow auth instead of forcing you to open the default browser on the same machine which defeats the purpose of a cli for many use cases

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by datameta »

ipsum2 wrote: post #309
mil22 wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is some information on this buried in configuration.md under "Usage Statistics". They claim: *What we DON'T collect:* - *Personally Identifiable Information (PII):* We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys. - *Prompt and Response Content:* We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model. - *File Content:* We do not log the content…

This is useful, and directly contradicts the terms and conditions for Gemini CLI (edit: if you use the personal account, then its governed under the Code Assist T&C). I wonder which one is true?

Can a lawyer offer their civilian opinion as to which supercedes/governs?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by foob »

mattzito wrote: post #266
ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

It's a lot more nuanced than that. If you use the free edition of Code Assist, your data can be used UNLESS you opt out, which is at the bottom of the support article you link to: "If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals." and then the link: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/docs/se…

your data can be used UNLESS you opt out

It's even more nuanced than that.

Google recently testified in court that they still train on user data after users opt out from training [1]. The loophole is that the opt-out only applies to one organization within Google, but other organizations are still free to train on the data. They may or may not have cleaned up their act given that they're under active investigation, but their recent actions haven't exactly earned them the benefit of the doubt on this topic.

[1] https://www.business-standard.com/technology/tech-news/googl...

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by upcoming-sesame »

iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

I think Pro is for regular folks, not specifically for programmers.

I also have a pro subscription and wish I could get an API key with that with generous quota as well but pro is just for "consumers" using Gemini app I guess

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by olejorgenb »

FiberBundle wrote: post #276
ipsum2 wrote: post #243

If you use this, all of your code data will be sent to Google. From their terms: https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/p... When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. To…

Do you honestly believe that the opt-out by Anthropic and Cursor means your code won't be used for training their models? Seems likely that they would rather just risk taking a massive fine for potentially solving software development than to let some competitor try it instead.

> For API users, we automatically delete inputs and outputs on our backend within 30 days of receipt or generation, except when you and we have agreed otherwise (e.g. zero data retention agreement), if we need to retain them for longer to enforce our Usage Policy (UP), or comply with the law.

If this is due to compliance with law I wonder how they can make the zero-data-retention agreement work... The companies I've seen have this have not mention that they themself retain the data...

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by joshvm »

joelm wrote: post #274

Been using Claude Code (4 Opus) fairly successfully in a large Rust codebase, but sometimes frustrated by it with complex tasks. Tried Gemini CLI today (easy to get working, which was nice) and it was pretty much a failure. It did a notably worse job than Claude at having the Rust code modifications compile successfully. However, Gemini at one point output what will probably be the highlight of my day: "I have made a…

Gemini has some fun failure modes. It gets "frustrated" when changes it makes doesn't work, and replies with oddly human phrases like "Well, that was unexpected" and then happily declares that (I see the issue!) "the final tests will pass" when it's going down a blind alley. It's extremely overconfident by default and much more exclamatory without changing the system prompt. Maybe in training it was taught/figured out that manifesting produces better results?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by upcoming-sesame »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #257
Workaccount2 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is pretty clear that these $20/subs are loss leaders, and really only meant to get regular people to really start leaning on LLMs. Once they are hooked, we will see what the actual price of using so much compute is. I would imagine right now they are pricing their APIs either at cost or slightly below.

I'm sure that there are power users who are using much more than $20 worth of compute, but there will also be many users who pay but barely use the service.

since its bundled with Google One storage, which most people (into Google's ecosystem) buy anyway, the price is actually less than 20

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by virgildotcodes »

So far I'm getting mixed results. I noted in its memory and in GEMINI.md a couple of directives like "only generate migration files using cli tools to ensure the timestamps are correct" and "never try to run migrations yourself" and it failed to follow those instructions a couple of times within ~20 minutes of testing.

In comparison to Claude Code Opus 4, it seemed much more eager to go on a wild goose chase of fixing a problem by creating calls to new RPCs that then attempted to modify columns that didn't exist or which had a different type, and its solution to this being a problem was to then propose migration after migration to modify the db schema to fit the shape of the rpc it had defined.

Reminded me of the bad old days of agentic coding circa late 2024.

I'm usually a big fan of 2.5 Pro in an analysis / planning context. It seems to just weirdly fall over when it comes to tool calling or something?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by krferriter »

diegof79 wrote: post #194
iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

Google suffers from Microsoft's issues: it has products for almost everything, but its confusing product messaging dilutes all the good things it does. I like Gemini 2.5 Pro, too, and recently, I tried different AI products (including the Gemini Pro plan) because I wanted a good AI chat assistant for everyday use. But I also wanted to reduce my spending and have fewer subscriptions. The Gemini Pro subscription is inc…

I subscribed to Google One through the Google Photos iOS app because I wanted photos I took on my iPhone to be backed up to Google. When I switched to Android and went into Google One to increase my storage capacity in my Google account, I found that it was literally impossible, because the subscription was tied to my iCloud account. I even got on a line with Google Support about it and they told me yeah it's not even possible on their side to disconnect my Google One subscription from Apple. I had to wait for the iCloud subscription to Google One to end, and then I was able to go into Google One and increase my storage capacity.
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