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Post by jonah »

gruez wrote: post #315
bostik wrote: post #309

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> 30 milligrams of high explosive is enough to open your daughter's skull, or, more relevantly, your commanding officer's daughter's skull, and there are a thousand ways to deliver it While we are talking about flying drones, we are not far off from Slaughterbots becoming reality.[0] Why bother with surgical assassinations if you can blanket entire regions with with swarms of autonomous seek-and-destroy explosives? A…

>After all, as last two years have so amply demonstrated: people are fine with genocide. Last two years? Try last few decades at the very least. People only care about the war in Gaza more because it's controversial. For non-controversial cases people just agree it's bad but shrug their shoulders. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…

What's ridiculous is that it's even seen as controversial by some.

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Post by johnisgood »

contingencies wrote: post #329
johnisgood wrote: post #325

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How would one go about using adb? Motorola, stock Android. Do I need to root my phone for this to work or what are the requirements, or how do I perform it?

1. Install android SDK / android studio on your computer. 2. Plug phone in to computer using USBC cable. 3. Answer prompt on phone granting permission to computer. 4. Run adb commands.

Thanks, my issue so far was with the 2nd step, as if my Linux did not recognize my device. I might have a go on Windows if Linux will not work again.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Post by Grandeculio »

I found the app on my Samsung phone but I also found something interesting.

Go to Settings->Apps and find the app in the list. Click "Configure in AppCloud" and then click "Personal Data". A form shows up where you can request access to the data or request a deletion of the data.

I just requested access to my data, received an email confirmation where I had to click a link. I am curious to see what they will send me (if they will send me anything).

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Post by AJ007 »

b112 wrote: post #308
monster_truck wrote: post #299

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Brother you cannot be serious with this racist take

Saying that a culture is poor at security dev, such as Chinese business culture, is not even remotely rasist. There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. For example, there are many ethnically Chinese people who grew up in the West, working in businesses, in countries where there is a culture of security. Now, you could label it 'cultura…

There's also another point that security is really fucking expensive. Apple on Google spend billions a year on security, yet their phones are broken in to once they are a couple of years old. Big American software companies have large margins and large budgets. Those Chinese companies are running on fumes (and credit.)

Security and encryption is taken as a given by Western regulators given how many times they pass laws to break encryption. If you look at targeted 0-days, the conclusion would be more along the lines of the very best hardware+software is barely secure.

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Post by elternal_love »

mousethatroared wrote: post #321

Not in this field but, if you're willing to sacrifice performance for security (by avoiding closed, western, hardware) how hard would it be to for a group of top hardware and software engineers to make a secure smartphone? Id gather you could go very far with the following list: - Proved correct micro kernel - Encrypted messaging by default - Encrypted memory - Encrypted messaging between processes. - hardware switch…

I believe a proven correct micro kernel for a production system in smartphone scale is a sufficiently complex engineering task.

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Post by oefrha »

joshstrange wrote: post #258
Grimeton wrote: post #221

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Because Apple blocks everybody else from spying on you but Apple themselves are still perfectly spying on you. And not just that, by disallowing all other apps to get their hands on your data you even tell Apple which data it can sell for a higher price because it's only available via Apple and noons else... Let that sink in.

Let what sink in? Your completely unprovable/unproven conspiracy theory? You are suggesting that Apple is actively tracking you in other apps (apps that aren’t allowed to track you themselves). I find that completely preposterous and a huge risk for Apple to take given their marketing. > Because Apple blocks everybody else from spying on you but Apple themselves are still perfectly spying on you. Extraordinary claims…

You mean extraordinary evidence like selling Apple Ads and associated attribution data that third parties aren't allowed to collect? Their ads revenue is now $10B+ and growing. You must know nothing about the mobile measurement industry if you think this very mundane claim is some extraordinary conspiracy theory; it's not even controversial there.

https://ads.apple.com/app-store/help/attribution/0093-adattr...

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Post by exe34 »

gruez wrote: post #324
b112 wrote: post #308

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Saying that a culture is poor at security dev, such as Chinese business culture, is not even remotely rasist. There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. For example, there are many ethnically Chinese people who grew up in the West, working in businesses, in countries where there is a culture of security. Now, you could label it 'cultura…

>>Brother you cannot be serious with this racist take >There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. This just seems like nitpicking to me. Colloquially most people would classify discrimination based on country of origin, or "culture" (whatever that means) as racism, even if it doesn't meet the technical definition. For instance Trump's t…

Just because most people are wrong doesn't mean we should encourage the dilution of words.

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Post by 1oooqooq »

chaosbolt wrote: post #129
boramalper wrote: post #10

I suspect a strong link between mass surveillance (by corporations for advertising or by states for intelligence purposes) and the very recent targeting of the senior Iranian nuclear scientist and military officers at their homes in Iran. Wherever you are from or whatever side of the conflict you are on, I think we can all agree that it’s never been easier to infer so much about a person from “semi-public” sources su…

I suspect Israel has backdoor access to most CPUs. Here is how Pegasus seems: - China has 1.5 billion people, lots of resources, would profit a lot economically if they found a way to hack iOS, etc. But yet couldn't hack it. - Israel with its 7 million people, not only hacks iOS multiple times, but does it to spy on its allies. Now I've seen the threads analysing Pegasus' complexity, I don't know if it's been reprodu…

pegasus Occam's razor:

- the smaller country hacked ios, have to sell it to recoup r&d costs, got caught many times.

- the larger country hacked ios, don't need to sell it around, haven't been caught.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

gruez wrote: post #324
b112 wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying that a culture is poor at security dev, such as Chinese business culture, is not even remotely rasist. There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. For example, there are many ethnically Chinese people who grew up in the West, working in businesses, in countries where there is a culture of security. Now, you could label it 'cultura…

>>Brother you cannot be serious with this racist take >There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. This just seems like nitpicking to me. Colloquially most people would classify discrimination based on country of origin, or "culture" (whatever that means) as racism, even if it doesn't meet the technical definition. For instance Trump's t…

> This just seems like nitpicking to me. Colloquially most people would classify discrimination based on country of origin, or "culture" (whatever that means) as racism, even if it doesn't meet the technical definition.

Nobody is going to believe you're talking about real things if you let people call your argument "racism" so it's not nitpicking if you can explain why it's not. Also the word "discrimination" is itself a loaded term.

And yes areas having cultures is real. Sometimes it's tied to country, sometimes it's not.

> Trump's travel bans have been called by many as "racist", even though it covers a bunch of countries,

I'm confused? Covering a whole bunch of countries sharing a demographic is much more likely to be a racist move than picking one or two.

> and even though the countries are majority muslim, it also excludes major muslim countries like Pakistan and Indonesia.

That's a good argument against saying "muslim ban" but I'm pretty sure a focus on the middle east makes it more about race.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

hmcq6 wrote: post #71
grishka wrote: post #62

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To be pedantic, yes, but not in a way that matters. The system partition is read-only. Mounting it read-write would require root and any modifications would break system updates. The apk will still be physically present in the file system, however , none of its code will run and it will be removed from your launcher and installed app list in settings, which IMO still counts as a removal. Also, English is not my nativ…

It's not being pedantic. Disabling the application does not give me the storage space back. If people are paying for upgrades to storage space it's completely reasonable for them to be annoyed by bloatware

Even with the outrageous prices for phone storage upgrade, an entire gigabyte of inactive bloat would be a $1 impact. It's not a big deal.
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