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Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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post #270

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Meta lies about all kinds of other things. No reason not to now - they seem to have paid very little penalty so far for getting caught.

Is there any evidence Meta has ever intentionally lied about anything? Like do you have any examples?

Does web-to-app tracking through localhost on Android that is illegal under GDPR count?

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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so, gaza is going back to egypt and everybody is locked there behind fence. and west bank is annexed by jordan ? sounds good

Gaza and West Bank as Palestinian territory. That means that Israel would have to retreat to its 1967 borders.

There was no "Palestinian territory" in the 1967 map. Gaza was part of Egypt, the West Bank was part of Jordan.

But neither Egypt nor Jordan want anything to do with them now because of the internal instability it would inevitably result in.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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> the leadership has been repeatedly chanting "Death To America" for its 45 year history This is a good read: https://www.mypersiancorner.com/death-to-america-explained-o... The phrase is ugly, but it's how you say "fuck the US government" in a very melodramatic and poetic language where the most common way of calling your friend's baby cute translates to "let me martyr myself for this child."

I am not an expert in the language or the culture, so I'm willing to accept that as the truth. Nonetheless... they've had 45 years to figure out what it sounds like to us. Those 45 years started with actual violence, and has continued with various forms of proxy conflict. So I don't think it's 100% on us to de-escalate the situation. (That said... they had been working on that de-escalation, and we're the ones who th…

The reason you guys threw it in the bin is here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad_infiltration_of_Irani...

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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This wasn't Tulsi saying it, but the intelligence community going back to the dubbya administration. Some of us are old enough to remember. In honor of W. "fool me one, shame on you. Fool me twice? Well you cant fool me twice"

I think this is quite different than Iraq. We know Iran has many sites were they are developing nuclear technology, sites that they not only do they not let inspections happen, but that are literally buried deep in the ground. We also know they are acquiring or have acquired the technology to enrich to weapons grade, and they themselves have said they will continue to enrich beyond what a civilian program needs. In o…

If the intelligence community is not trust worthy, then upon what are you basing the claims in your post?

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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post #331

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Is there any evidence Meta has ever intentionally lied about anything? Like do you have any examples?

Does web-to-app tracking through localhost on Android that is illegal under GDPR count?

Did they intentionally lie about it? Parent post didn't claim Meta has never broken a law.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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I bet. The middle east is more complicated than quantum mechanics. There are like gazillions of factions, local and foreign. You would think you can roughly group them into Israel+US, Russia, Shia, Sunni. They surely all hate each other. But there are still constantly shifting alliances. At some point Iran (Shia?) was funding ISIS (Sunni?) only to later team up with the US and Israel to fight them. Sometimes all thes…

Iran did not fund ISIS.

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Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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I find the wordsmithery on Meta's statement the most interesting: “We do not track your *PRECISE* location, we don’t keep logs of who everyone is messaging and we do not track the *PERSONAL* messages people are sending one another," it added. “We do not provide *BULK* information to any government.”

Yes, it's lying with a tiny bit of plausible deniability.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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> WhatsApp uses end-to-end encryption, meaning a service provider in the middle can’t read a message. I wish this meme that "whatsapp is secure because it uses e2e encryption" would die. Why does it matter if the messages are e2e encrypted if the messages are managed on the two ends of the channel by a closed source binary that does who-knows-what. The whatsapp app itself sees the clear text message. What it does wit…

If the messages are managed on the two ends of the channel by a closed source binary that does who-knows-what. The meme/trope is that you can't possibly know what such an app does without the source. It just isn't true. There'd be no meaningful phone vulnerability research if it was.

You're assuming the vuln researcher has access to the backdoored binary. That's not necessarily the case.

Imagine if they pushed an update of the app out with the vuln to only some users, or users in {country} in their app release configs

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