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Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by skeeter2020 »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #251
croemer wrote: post #246

Great story, I wish this inspired more prisons around the world to follow suit. For those who don't want to hit Google, the conviction was for possessing 30g of a synthetic opioid "U-47700". A normal dose is ~1mg, 10mg can be deadly (so this was 30000 trips or killing 3000). The drug became illegal across the US on November 14, 2016. "Police said they found the drug in Thorpe’s apartment in Manchester in December 201…

Wow, 15-30 years seems like an insane amount of time for drug possession. Even if the amount implied dealing, that still seems really high. Don't people typically get less than that for sexual assault or armed robbery?

in addition to the other comments, this was also not his first conviction. They get extremely punative.

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abxyz wrote: post #232
glommer wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem like a very bitter person trying to find issues where there are none.

You could have said this: "I am the one who hired Preston. Whatever he has done in the past, I have all the evidence in the world in front of me to assure me that he has a transformed heart." Instead, you had to drag down others, the people who you haven't blessed with your benevolence. "It is not a common thing to see." You are being praised for showing kindness to one of us (a nerd, a programmer) while disparaging…

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Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ahahs »

antihero wrote: post #274
mlissner wrote: post #87

Maine's remote work program is an incredibly promising development to prevent recidivism. The amazing thing about it is that it gives real jobs to prisoners that they can seamlessly continue after they get out of prison. Normally when you get out, it's impossible to get a job, and the clock is ticking. This leads to desperation, which leads to bad behavior. There is a real risk of exploitation, but if it's properly m…

It's amazing. Absolutely insane that people are incarcerated so long for non-violent drug crimes, though. Turso also looks really neat for small Payload sites.

Say that to the people he killed selling those drugs. This isn't weed, it's highly lethal pills.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by Ray20 »

laufey wrote: post #11
chatmasta wrote: post #6

How does the compensation work? The US prison system has a bit of a nasty reputation when it comes to exploiting prison labor, so I hope those practices aren’t carrying over into these more forward-looking types of initiative… but at the same time, surely Turso isn’t paying full SWE salary?

Just curious, why would you expect him to be paid less? I know historically pay is bad for prisoners, but if he's working the same hours and is just as productive as any other employee, shouldn't he be paid the same? I could potentially see paying someone less if they were coming in with much less experience than what's usually hired for in the role, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

Because the level of payment almost always depends on the level of competition for a particular person's work. When you're in prison, there's practically no competition for your work. So it's expected that he'll be paid much less.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by jmpetroske »

coredog64 wrote: post #198
lo_zamoyski wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds good. It is important that we recognize all of the purposes of punishment instead of overemphasizing one or neglecting the other. Punishment has three ends: retribution, rehabilitation, and deterrence. It is important that you pay for your crime for the sake of justice; it is charitable and prudent to rehabilitate the criminal, satisfying the corrective end of punishment; and would-be criminals must be gi…

You're missing a function: Removal. Locking up criminals prevents them committing additional crimes that impact the general public. Data from the last few years shows that there's definitely a Pareto aspect to criminal populations, and absent an ability to rehabilitate, removal is the next best option for society at large.

Would love to read into this research if you have a link or something to search

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by skeeter2020 »

badc0ffee wrote: post #318
glommer wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are asking me about my religion, I am a Catholic convert, after 20+ years of obnoxious militant atheism.

"Militant", really?

I don't read this as he thinks all Atheists are militant, but that his own behaviour was obnoxious? If so, many of us have met those.

It's nice to hear about someone who can change their mind so completely; the trick is not to swing to the other end of the spectrum, trading one absolute for another.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by BlarfMcFlarf »

UncleEntity wrote: post #31
chatmasta wrote: post #6

How does the compensation work? The US prison system has a bit of a nasty reputation when it comes to exploiting prison labor, so I hope those practices aren’t carrying over into these more forward-looking types of initiative… but at the same time, surely Turso isn’t paying full SWE salary?

/me putting on my Law & Order hat Why should the taxpayers be burdened by the results of his bad decisions? /me takes off hat

Imprisoning someone is also a great harm. That harm should have a cost, so that it is not employed flippantly.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by GoatInGrey »

badc0ffee wrote: post #318
glommer wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are asking me about my religion, I am a Catholic convert, after 20+ years of obnoxious militant atheism.

"Militant", really?

Militant atheists tend to embody anti-theism. It typically manifests as active desire to dissuade anybody from holding religious beliefs or performing religious practices.

Any clergy, whether faithful or secular, has the capacity to act in a militant fashion.

Re: Working on databases from prison

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Post by ponector »

antihero wrote: post #274
mlissner wrote: post #87

Maine's remote work program is an incredibly promising development to prevent recidivism. The amazing thing about it is that it gives real jobs to prisoners that they can seamlessly continue after they get out of prison. Normally when you get out, it's impossible to get a job, and the clock is ticking. This leads to desperation, which leads to bad behavior. There is a real risk of exploitation, but if it's properly m…

It's amazing. Absolutely insane that people are incarcerated so long for non-violent drug crimes, though. Turso also looks really neat for small Payload sites.

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