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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Was something actually been written up or is this just some rally ranting ? Because I would love to read the National Security justification for imposing a tariff on foreign movies. In fact I'm sure some US companies are gonna be hit by this such as Netflix ? Disney ?

So far only the dictatorial threat has been made. The Secretary of Commerce says he’s working on it, so presumably he’ll fabricate a justification for it soon.

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They’re often not shot in the US, due to cost differences and tax incentives. I suspect the latter is the real issue, but haven’t looked into it.

When you say often, how much in % of all movies are not produced in US?

Another veteran movie insider's take on this issue:

"I say Los Angeles WAS the best, because I don't think it's true any more. For many decades, film tax incentives have sucked production from Hollywood (and New York). Also, due to technological advancements, it's a lot easier to shoot away from a production center." [0]

Some hard numbers:

"Lockdowns, strikes, and exploding production costs have pushed many productions overseas, especially for streaming services with global ambitions. Hollywood production volumes have declined steeply since the second quarter of 2023. Stateside production is down 40% in the second quarter of 2024 compared to peak television levels of filming during the same period in 2022." [1]

[0] https://x.com/RamboVanHalen/status/1918378975417532675

[1] https://www.filmtake.com/production/streamers-shift-focus-ov...

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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its very likely to cause reciprocal tariffs though, and exports of Hollywood way out weigh the imports of foreign films

There already are tarrifs and bans against Hollywood in many countries.

> There already are tarrifs and bans against Hollywood in many countries.

Name one.

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They don't have armed revolution enshrined in their constitution

If arms are the important component, what wrong things are you saying we exclusively use that part of the constitution to defend? I don't think that part is used for much else

The only time you hear of the second amendment is to justify having guns after a massacre. Yet here we are, literally a textbook case of it, and crickets. I'm against guns and gun violence, but Americans aren't.

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I'd expect 911 to redirect to one of the emergency services in most/all European countries, no?

No, only in a handful of countries, or on US airbases. 112 is your friend in all of Europe

112 should work in almost the whole world on a mobile phone, since it's part of the GSM standard.

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There was a claim at one point that, due to the popularity of American TV shows in Europe, during household emergencies kids were calling 911 instead of the local version (e.g. it's 999 in some European countries)

110 (Police), 112 (Ambulance, Fire Department) in Germany.

Why are there two different numbers? When there is an emergency you want people to always do the right thing. Guessing the wrong number to call is not the right thing, and worse 2 numbers means there is great chance you didn't memorize either. This is well studied in human factors.

Besides, anytime the other two are involved the police need to respond too - when there is a fire or medical emergency whoever can get that first can often be very helpful even if they are mostly for a different job. As such this separation seems wrong.

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Isolationism is a key MAGA tenet. It's not accidental.

MAGA has several mutually exclusive tenets: - Isolationism - Increase US influence worldwide - Exploit US influence worldwide Each one will have a negative effect on the other two.

MAGA is not a single entity. Different parts of it have different concerns. That is how politics works for better and worse.

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Growing up in the 70s and 80s in Germany, I've been brainwashed by US movies and sitcoms, 90% of the things I've watched was from the US - Magnum P.I, Simon & Simon, The Fall Guy, Kojak, A-Team, Golden Girls, Mary Taylor Moore, Lou Grant, MacGyver, Knight Rider, Night Court, Family Ties, Miami Vice, The Wonder Years, Facts of Life, Love Boat, and on and on and on. I know the US better than many parts of Germany.

I know the US better than many parts of Germany I read an article years ago from a lawyer (might have been a judge) complaining that, thanks to US TV and movies, people in Sweden know more about how the US justice system works than the Swedish system. Far too many people just fall back on their US TV knowledge of how they think courts work and that they keep having to explain to the people that, no that's not how thi…

We have very few shows about lawyers/law here because our system is simple (and boring?) enough that there isn't much to make anything interesting about.

IANAL but have taken some intro level course (that usually starts with don't think anything from American shows applies).

1: It's rooted in civil law so the written laws(and their precursor political discussions) are first considered, laws are thus fairly broadly written with specifications where needed. So precedents are mostly only used to disambiguate gray areas in terms of applicability or conflicts between laws. (but precedents rulings are in turn are meant to rely on the precursor political discussions before courts can take their own authority on any subject).

2: Intent is given significance, so 2 parties can enter into fairly "sloppily written" contracts that will be legally binding as long as the intent of the contract is clear, they're signed and doesn't violate any laws (there is law specifically targets obviously unfair contracts, but also other laws that regulate specific areas).

3: Criminal prosecution at the primary level is in front of 3 judges, one professional head judge with law degree that knows laws and 2 "laymen" to represent people in general (usually politically appointed to reflect the people via elections), no juries as the role those serve is handled by the laymen judges.

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> This tariff isn't an attack on Hollywood. This helps actors and staff in the Hollywood area. Does it, though? I mean, the Trump administration is only making it more expensive for theaters to screen non-US movies. Are you going to even bother going to a cinema if the movie you wanted to see isn't made available? And how dominant are non-US productions in US cinemas? It sounds like more tarrif bullshit,where the onl…

Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US. Excluding animation movies, of course. I understand that the idea is “medium/long term” to move production to Hollywood area, but the short term impact can be massive. [1] “Deadpool and Wolverine”, “Wicked” and “Beetlejuice Beetlejuice” in London, “Dune part 2” in Budapest and Italy, “Godzilla x Kong” in Australia. Only “Twisters” was filmed in the US.

> Most top movies last year [1] were shot outside of the US.

The movies you listed as examples are Hollywood productions (aka Hollywod movies, aka American movies).

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Well these were the words from the horse's mouth: “This is a concerted effort by other Nations and, therefore, a National Security threat,” Trump said in the Truth Social post. “It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda!” To me this seems to motivate the tariffs as a battle against foreign propaganda.

Well, yes. American films obviously have been soft on China because they've been desperate for access to the Chinese market. You don't bite the hand that feeds. In a similar way, if a significant amount of film production moves to the UK, it's likely that criticisms of the UK would be more muted. In the long run, this creates a national security threat when our media is inundated with non-neutral messages about other…

> if a significant amount of film production moves to the UK, it's likely that criticisms of the UK would be more muted.

Have you watched British television or movies sometimes? They're not exactly sparing their country from criticism .. E.g. (the original) House of Cards, Not the Nine O'Clock News, etc.

The other country you mention, China, is a better match. But is that the kind of society that the USA wants to be?

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