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Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes

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Re: Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes

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trailers have to sit at docks to get loaded and unloaded. they can charge then. meanwhile the truck can leave instantly. maybe a two part system of flatbed trailer with battery + cargo container sitting on top that?

who's managing/wrangling those trailers to keep them rotating to always stay charged? you just created a new job type at the ports

just have plugs at the docks? the same guy that opens the trailer doors can plug it in

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US is already the largest shipper of freight by train in terms of shipped tonnage and also total tracks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transportation_in_the_Uni...

Not a very interesting data point since it doesn’t account for nation area, utilization, etc.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Freight_Shipping_in_...

Here’s tonnage miles by class.

For comparison. There is only 20,000 miles of railway that Amtrak operates on. Thats a fraction of passenger railway compared to China and EU.

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The farmers I know tell me that their tractors and combines use autonomous guidance, including turning at the end of each row.

They do - I build those for john Deere. basic high school geometry is all it takes once you have gps accurate to a few cm. been working for more than 10 years (though until reciently hard to settup) the important part to note as those systems don't have detection of anyone/thing that might be there. In a rural field no problem as nobody is there but on a city road there will be plenty of things to watch out for. We a…

Yeah, the farmers tell me that they still have to be watching from the cab. Apparently deer can be caught off guard for some strange reason.

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In other words, trains

Can you come up with a plan to ship Budweiser beer to the consumers around the country via train?

I might, for a better tasting beer ;)

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I don’t get it. Say I’m building a company to ship self-driving trucks. I need hundreds of millions, maybe billions in capital. I need to line up purchasers. My fixed costs are huge and marginal lower, so I need volume. How, exactly, am I thinking about “threatening” existing drivers so they work longer hours and break more laws?

Play out the same thought experiment but from the truckers point of view.

Yes? I would feel economic uncertainty and worry, but I’m not so egocentric that I would think that someone is raising hundreds of millions of dolllars and building factories in an elaborate scheme to make me work longer hours.

That’s the claim that was scoffing at.

Re: Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes

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who's managing/wrangling those trailers to keep them rotating to always stay charged? you just created a new job type at the ports

just have plugs at the docks? the same guy that opens the trailer doors can plug it in

Trailers do not sit at docks. They back in, get unloaded, and then pull away.

Re: Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes

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Play out the same thought experiment but from the truckers point of view.

Yes? I would feel economic uncertainty and worry, but I’m not so egocentric that I would think that someone is raising hundreds of millions of dolllars and building factories in an elaborate scheme to make me work longer hours. That’s the claim that was scoffing at.

Change one part of your sentence. Change "to" to "which results in".

Re: Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes

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So now one can hack a truck and steal its cargo? Neat.

That kind of thing could happen before autonomy. Our factory had someone turn up and say I'm the driver to pick up the truck over there, get given keys and make off with a truck load of stock.

Cool, real old school. Though they would be caught with all the cameras around these days.

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most of Europe north of the alps is fairly flat in elevation. Railways are oversubscribed because they are not expanded enough, defunded if you like, to expand and fund the highway network. It is stupid to travel thousands of kilometers by trucks. It's inefficient, expensive and nit scalable. Currently we use mostly huge container ships and empty them with trucks, absolutely insane. There's quite a bit of river boat…

>the sorry state of the railways is just human-made and not dictated by economics I'm not sure about the world in general but I've followed the HS2 line in the UK and the problems are pretty much economic. We have a couple of north south lines along the UK but they are basically at capacity so the idea was to build another and make it high speed but it's proved incredibly expensive, partly due to property ownership a…

Yeah the big infra projects in the West somehow became like this. It's a very different story in Asia though.

Re: Driverless semis have started running regular longhaul routes

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That kind of thing could happen before autonomy. Our factory had someone turn up and say I'm the driver to pick up the truck over there, get given keys and make off with a truck load of stock.

Cool, real old school. Though they would be caught with all the cameras around these days.

It was a while ago.
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