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I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by mulderc »

duxup wrote: post #264
MrJohz wrote: post #229

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Ah, that's probably related to the bug I'm seeing where I've got my Teams calendar synced to my phone, but about half of the events show up an hour later or earlier. Isn't getting this right, like, _the_ purpose of a calendar?

Yes my phone teams app, the outlook app, and Teams at times all regularly disagree about my calendar. It's amazing as outlook used to be consistent, but now that its calendar is tied to teams too... it has inherited the suck.

The only app I hate more than outlook, is teams.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by mulderc »

9dev wrote: post #314
Aeolun wrote: post #311

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Having used better solutions for those things in the past, being forced to use Teams feels like a significant step back.

I miss slack so much. Their attention to detail makes for a much more enjoyable product, paying for something we get for free with 365… still. I don’t know if Microsoft should be content with a product that’s so awful people literally only use it because of network effects.

I always found slack to be sort of awful and hated it. Then I used teams and understood that slack was actually a decent version of such apps.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by goosejuice »

aaravchen wrote: post #231
daheza wrote: post #159

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Our company is forcing us to drop slack and use teams. It’s going to be terrible. But hey it saves 600k per year. Never mind that our customer experience will become terrible as team communication fails.

I just had to use Slack again after 6 years, and it's incredible how much worse its gotten. Honestly I don't know how they managed to make an industry leading tool actively worse by so much that its now _worse_ than Teams. Features it had 6 years ago that I desperately missed when we had to start using Teams are pretty much all gone now. Its such a slap in the face of how Enshittified it's become.

Yet it's better than every single alternative. Teams is a flaming pile of UX poo. Just like the rest of Microsoft products except Excel and _maybe_ Outlook.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by goosejuice »

bdangubic wrote: post #272
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #270

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I never really understand allthe hating on Teams around here. I use it at work for team meetings, often with people in multiple timezones, on desktop and mobile, and it just works. Its not a stellar experience, but it does just quietly get the job done. The whole, largish company runs on it.

it is like Jira, everyone loves to shit on it :)

Jira is much worse. There's not a single reason to buy Jira. I wouldn't use it if it was free.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by le-mark »

Also despise teams, here’s my anecdote. A few years ago (about 2020) the Linux teams client had bug where it would write to a .so continuously which is odd enough. It would then fill up the disk on my work laptop writing to that one file. Seemed to be related to the update mechanism. Luckily as a dev I had admin access and uninstalled and deleted the 450gB .so file.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by phatskat »

phkahler wrote: post #310
phatskat wrote: post #254

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Whenever I schedule a meeting, Teams warns me that some attendees are in a different time zone. Except they aren’t. I’ve confirmed with coworkers and checking our settings. And then there’s the “helpful” way teams resets the calendar view: let’s say I’m going back through calls from last week to see how long they took. In Teams, I go back a week, click the calendar item, record the time in my app, then go back to the…

>> Whenever I schedule a meeting, Teams warns me that some attendees are in a different time zone. Are they on a VPN to another time zone?

Funny enough, we’re all on the same VPN in the same state.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by throwaway7783 »

mulderc wrote: post #332
9dev wrote: post #314

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I miss slack so much. Their attention to detail makes for a much more enjoyable product, paying for something we get for free with 365… still. I don’t know if Microsoft should be content with a product that’s so awful people literally only use it because of network effects.

I always found slack to be sort of awful and hated it. Then I used teams and understood that slack was actually a decent version of such apps.

Curious to know what's awful about slack specifically. For me, I don't like to get lost in a bazillion channels, pins are not global (`saved for later` is), there is no personal message queues etc.

Do you have a laundry list?

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by neilv »

duxup wrote: post #265
liquidpele wrote: post #263

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Having interviewed many people from there, I can only assume they hire anyone with a pulse and give them major features to write in a language they don’t know.

Might be time for me to apply ...

If they don't dogfood it (or dogpoop it, in this case), that would be one away to avoid working at a company where you have to use Microsoft Teams.

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by Nevermark »

karel-3d wrote: post #137

> It’s available right where employees already spend most of their day — in Microsoft Teams. Depression and dread is coming through me. All the repressed memories are flowing back up.

What we need here is a Teams upgrade/replacement that, purely as a sales impedance match, integrates really well with Teams…

Re: I created Perfect Wiki and reached $250k in annual revenue without investors

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Post by criddell »

Aeolun wrote: post #313
karel-3d wrote: post #245

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The good thing: When you switch from slack to teams, all channel communications go to 0, because the experience is so dreadful, so you don't get 100 channels to read. The bad thing: it all moves to private messages

Teams realized that nobody was using their channels too. So instead of doing the reasonable thing, they noved all the channels to the chat view now.

I never understood how they wanted me to use channels so I didn’t.

What was the reasonable thing that they should have done?

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