Kinda amusing that the general sentiment so far, in a forum filled with technology expertise, is that there is certainly waste in these budgets. But, when discussing the overall trend of cutting programs in other fields where the majority doesn't have that expertise, the conclusion is the opposite.
Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
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Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
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> for fresh graduates who know effectively nothing at all about what they talk about Assuming they are akin to grad students, these "fresh graduates" likely have more intersectional knowledge than long-time deep domain experts. I've worked in grant funding landscape, and one of the biggest challenges is that: 1. Experts have deep knowledge, but don't keep up outside their field, and yet have the most power in distrib…
> Assuming they are akin to grad students I think that's the problem. They're not. I know some folks who went to consulting shops like this. They're invariably 2 types of people: people who got very high GPAs but cannot actually code a working program, and people who got pushed into the degree for various reasons but have zero passion. Note I'm not saying you need *passion* to be in this industry. But these people li…
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> With any "normal" president (including Kamala Harris), the federal government would likely be expanding spending and gov't programs right now Perhaps, and in such a case, the american economy would not be cratering like it has been lately, and americans would be suffering less, and america would be stronger on the international stage. In fact, all things considered, more spending would have been better for america…
You can't just spend your troubles away forever. It might temporarily alleviate things, but long term it will collapse the entire system. At some point there need to be painful austerity measures - budget cuts, increased taxes, and the like. It's unpopular to do painful things, but it's necessary for survival.
learn how the global economy is, understand what fiat is, find out what your missing. (first hint, money is a construct - and follow the tbills)
you know what does make the US have to do "painful austerity measures - budget cuts, increased taxes, and the like. It's unpopular to do painful things, but it's necessary for survival" ??
Watch everything the current administration does because they dont understand modern economics and you'll see.
Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
#334Consultants are misused if employed on a constant basis instead of employing enough senior staff directly. There are well known drivers on both sides that tend to promote such an unhealthy setup. What is concerning at the US government is not cutting consulting but at the same time cutting staff and on top creating a hostile environment for senior staff. This is unprecedented and is not something one would do in the…
The ONLY time this occurs in the private sector is when corporate raiders are trying to extract every last penny from a business they plan on killing. Unsurprisingly this follows directly with project 2025s goal of dismantling the federal government and privatizing what departments aren’t filled with party loyalists at the expense of the average US citizen.
I can name a half dozen people who are in roles like this for F500 companies.
Hell, my wife was zoning SANs for $300/hr for like 6 years at a big bank. Another friend is essentially a pimp for a bunch of companies providing logistics staff. He takes a vig from the work of like 10k people.
Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
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Wasn't every gun and rocket given to Ukraine a theft from the hungry and the cold?
Probably not, since most of what we sent over was existing stock. The money had already been turned into weapons of war years ago. You can't really turn a gun or rocket into a loaf of bread.
Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
#336What were these contracts for? Networking or day to day software/application maintenance? I get they were probably bloated (I did work for a defense contractor at one point) but presumably they were doing something. I mean isn’t Deloitte a accounting firm? I’m a little worried about the “stand down” attitude against cyber attacks.
IMHO firing Accenture is probably a good move in this case. I bet they were extracting money at every opportunity just so the gov't could nominally avoid cloud vendor lock-in.
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Inevitably, that way of setting up an organization leads to one of two end-games: 1-A wealthy ruling class who can afford and feels entitled to be the government. See: the British Empire. 2-A wealthy ruling class who can afford to postpone profits while they accumulate power, to eventually trade that power for profit through grift. See: western democracy. Pay people as well as possible for their work and ruthlessly g…
Singapore has been independent since 1959, while the USA got its own in 1776, and Britain has been around for more than a thousand years. I don't think we can, yet, call Singapore a lastingly successful system, considering most of the time since its independence has been under a father or his son.
Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
Inevitably, that way of setting up an organization leads to one of two end-games: 1-A wealthy ruling class who can afford and feels entitled to be the government. See: the British Empire. 2-A wealthy ruling class who can afford to postpone profits while they accumulate power, to eventually trade that power for profit through grift. See: western democracy. Pay people as well as possible for their work and ruthlessly g…
Re: 1. Cause and effect are backward. Imperial service was actually more meritocratic than the domestic British government of that time. Look how many names of colonialists are Scottish or Irish. The former were tossed out of their land during the Highland clearances or lost influence when the Union shifted power to London. The latter were barred from high office due to their Catholic religion. But if you had talent…
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96 of 301 projects complete, 58 in progress • https://www.project2025.observer/
Whether you support it or not, for government, that's really some incredible efficiency. almost 1/3 complete in 100 days
In democracy loving areas of the British Empire, that type of arbitrary action led to revolutions.
Re: Pentagon to terminate $5.1B in IT contracts with Accenture, Deloitte
#340Consultants are misused if employed on a constant basis instead of employing enough senior staff directly. There are well known drivers on both sides that tend to promote such an unhealthy setup. What is concerning at the US government is not cutting consulting but at the same time cutting staff and on top creating a hostile environment for senior staff. This is unprecedented and is not something one would do in the…
My point is (in an effort to maintain a most respectful interpretation) that I imagine the environment is becoming more hostile to people with certain values while becoming less hostile to people with other values. And while there's a good chance I'm wrong, my generous assumption would be they are making a hostile environment for people who value process over outcome and making it less hostile to people who value outcome over process. (Replacing bureaucrats and risk-averse money wasters with problem solvers, innovators and cowboys)