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The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutio... Especially noted: > Overall, rural counties had the highest rate of gun deaths.

This is still tiny numbers.

Sure, small numbers, low statistics, but it is still in the list of reasons why "Americans don't trust cutting through a random field and see only a dangerous road in a picture like that street view" in some parts of the country. The US has a fascinating relationship to "private property".

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Maybe they are so different because you (and others) won't try to learn from different cultures. If not, probably nothing will change.

What exactly are you suggesting? Japan is a monoculture and strictly traditional, not to mention very xenophobic. Everything works because the social penalties for violating those norms are severe. It’s effectively an ethnostate and not that long ago revered their god-emperor. The U.S. is by contrast a diverse (geographically and demographically), broad culture of immigrant communities based on a concept of rugged in…

> What exactly are you suggesting?

Not to reshape America into Japan, but attempt to keep the parts that are nice while integrating the best parts of other nations. America loved to claim it was a nation of immigrants; the French even sent you a gift for how much America would take the best of other countries (the brightest minds, the hardest workers), and build with that.

Maybe that's not how the country works any more, but it was a nice fantasy.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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That wouldn't work in US until the whole culture changes. An individual family may do this, and then someone will call child protective services because there is a lost, unaccompanied child. Happened to my coworker: kids were playing outside and a neighbor called the authorities on them. Not clear if they really thought the kids were in danger, or just did it out of spite, but what ensued was a nightmare of CPS calli…

>kids were playing outside and a neighbor called the authorities on them The worst part is that someone would thing this is the appropriate thing to do rather than observe the kids and in any case approach them and ask if they’re OK. The US has grown a culture of “don’t get involved” cowards hidden behind the legal system.

The coworker never found out who that was and talking about he kind of suspected it was a just a neighbor that didn't like them. And like you said, they can always hide behind "I don't know I was just worried about the children".

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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You must have a lot of schools. I walked or biked about a mile each way to school starting in third grade (age 8-9), and the only reason I didn't do it a year earlier was that the two other kids who would accompany me were a year younger. I only got dropped off if it was raining (that can be quite severe and thunderstorms are common) or if I was so late that I couldn't make it. In the latter case, I walked home. Four…

Housing in Europe is very different from what it is in the US. A lot of it will look something like this [1]. In England, it's actually somewhat unusual to have any space between two homes. Semi and fully detached homes command a fairly high price. Roads were also not built for cars, so they tend to be much narrower than what you'd find in the US. All that means you'll find a much higher population density. You can e…

I've traveled enough in Europe, and not just major cities, to understand this about housing.

However, what is the average size of a graduating class from secondary education? My high school class was quite small, just under 100, but it was an oddity and classes before and since were more like 120-150. Even in elementary school we had around 75 in each year. It is not unusual in larger metro areas in the US to have over 1000 students in each graduating class.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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> children are at far greater risk of abuse and abduction by concern trolls and the State Is there evidence of that? And would you define 'concern trolls' (beyond 'people who have concerns different than mine')?

>people who have concerns different than mine "Trying to abduct my child either directly or by proxy" is not merely a question of polite differing concerns.

Who is trying to do that?

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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That's fucking ridiculous.

Normally I’d ding a comment like this as low-effort, but… I honestly can’t think of any more appropriate reaction. I know I’m behind the times, but I was surprised recently when, at an elementary school in the US, they showed me painted lines on the floor of the classroom, indicating the zones out of the line of fire for somebody shooting through the small, jail-like window in the door… apparently they train the babi…

America is the special combo of too much coddling and fuck-em, all at once.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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There's an entire section and even a chart in the article that explains why this is different now In 1969 only about 30% of kids lived too far away from school for walking to be a realistic option. In 2009 (and today) that numbers is around 80%. Walking to and from school is great if you can do it. Most people cannot do it.

why are schools farther away now? That's interesting.

My high school closed down because there weren’t enough families who could afford to live in the neighborhood.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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post #323

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>people who have concerns different than mine "Trying to abduct my child either directly or by proxy" is not merely a question of polite differing concerns.

Who is trying to do that?

People who call CPS just because children are outside unaccompanied? It's obvious taking children away from the parent is a possibility when one makes that call.

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Who is trying to do that?

People who call CPS just because children are outside unaccompanied? It's obvious taking children away from the parent is a possibility when one makes that call.

OK, but ... those people may not be 'concern trolls' at all (whatever that means).

Re: The School Car Pickup Line Is a National Embarrassment

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Housing in Europe is very different from what it is in the US. A lot of it will look something like this [1]. In England, it's actually somewhat unusual to have any space between two homes. Semi and fully detached homes command a fairly high price. Roads were also not built for cars, so they tend to be much narrower than what you'd find in the US. All that means you'll find a much higher population density. You can e…

I've traveled enough in Europe, and not just major cities, to understand this about housing. However, what is the average size of a graduating class from secondary education? My high school class was quite small, just under 100, but it was an oddity and classes before and since were more like 120-150. Even in elementary school we had around 75 in each year. It is not unusual in larger metro areas in the US to have ov…

This will probably wildly diver from country to country, but typically in elementary school where 50 kids, and for high school around 100-120.
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