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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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Post by speff »

maratc wrote: post #273
antman wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The memorandum also said they would provide assistance, they are not keeping that promise.

I've searched the text of the Memorandum[0] for that promise and couldn't find it there. Can you help? [0] https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/P...

Point 4

> ... seek immediate UN Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine ... if they should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used

This seems like the passage which would cover it. The UN is able to authorize use of force by member states against the aggressor. Though it looks like it hasn't done that - probably because of Russia's permanent position on the UN Security Council which would veto any such measures.

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Post by josefresco »

citrin_ru wrote: post #188
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people think it is so far fetched that Trump is a Russian asset given his behavior in his last term (trying to blackmail Zelenskyy on an official call) and his credit problems in the past (no banks would lend to him given his failure to pay back any loan, with the exception of an obscure channel through a German bank)? Perhaps Trump is just in debt to Putin and this is payback, he was intentionally crass to Ze…

It's plausible that Trump owes some $$$ but what would stop Trump from just refusing to pay the debt back?

Balconies

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Post by regularjack »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #144
xenospn wrote: post #70

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I have trouble following the logic here. Putin has not been able to conquer the whole of Ukraine after 3 years, but somehow, suddenly, he will be able to conquer all of the Baltic states without breaking a sweat? So which is it? Is the Russian army fighting with shovels or are they a ferocious horde that is unstoppable? Those two things cannot be true at the same time. I am getting tired of people parroting this narr…

Ukraine has been able to fight back because of the aid it got, that's why Russian's invasion wasn't a field trip.

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Post by UncleEntity »

riehwvfbk wrote: post #317
ponector wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also you can donate directly for the kamikaze drones here: https://www.sternenkofund.org/donate They are extremely effective in countering russian troops. One drone costs as little as 500$

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Nothing's really stopping them from leaving Ukraine, is there?

If you don't want to be targeted by kamikaze drones then don't volunteer to be part of an invading force. Back in the day I didn't really complain too much about being targeted when I was running around in Iraq as a civilian contractor. Well, other than the whole 'non-combatant' rules of war Geneva Convention thing but that was my choice as I knew they didn't discriminate when it came to killing people.

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Post by lifestyleguru »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #34

Hesgeth is sending an extra $4B to Israel (in case anyone thinks this is about saving money).

America in unable to sustain such active support for two countries simultaneously, so it's picking Israel. Israeli lobbying is much more far-reaching than European so American attention is shifting there. EU has 3-4 years to ram up but its leaders are the same self-absorbed as Trump (only less big mouthed), so in 3-4 years Europeans will have to absorb whatever Putin will come up with.

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Post by croes »

tiahura wrote: post #297
croes wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to burst your bubble, there is already a war and Russia is winning thanks to Trump. And don’t think it will be last one Russia started.

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There is a difference between peace and surrender, because that's basically that what Trumps proposes to appease Putin.

To oppose that isn't warmongering.

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Post by egberts1 »

People would say Budapest Memorandum give Ukraine the rights to its 2,000 Soviet nuclear weapons. That's not what it said.

People would say that the same memorandum says Ukraine security is absolute. Not that either.

People would say in 2014, US installed new Ukraine government via propaganda. Looks dubious too.

People would say Ukraine shut down 11+ political parties who opposed current Ukraine government; some parties were funded by Russia. That part remains true.

Newspaper and TV in Ukraine were nationalized partially with money by USAID, that was uncovered by US DOGE.

Elections were "suspended" in Ukraine. Last May 2024 was supposed to have a nationwide election. Definitely true.

Seems like Ukraine is following US foreign policy that led to demise of dictators like Mossadegh, Árbenz, Diệm, Noriega, Qadaffi, Saddam.

Is Zelensky a dictator now?

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Post by JaggerJo »

iammjm wrote: post #325

"Free world" my ass. As a European, the US has always been my favorite country and I've been basically universally pro-US all my life. The Recent US decisions managed to turn it 180 degrees for me, in a matter of basically a couple of months. As I consider myself to be a more or less statistical normie, I assume theres many, many more people like me. So: fuck US & eat shit, go suck Putins dick while the EU & the rest…

Yeah, kind of agree.

I don’t think this thought would have crossed my mind a few years ago, but I think more European countries need Nukes. Sad, but seems like the US can’t be trusted anymore.

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